Reddit ahh post. Genuinely what is the point of Lemmy dot world if every community is just scolding people about the fact you’re glazing a genocide denier
If you don’t support bombing hospitals and children, you hate America
Both candidates will do nothing about Israel. Kamala is maybe an ounce better on communication on this issue. But the genocide will keep going on no matter what sadly. It should be unacceptable to us, but if voting is our only mechanism of control its basically zero control over that issue.
It is against US law and international law to send weapons to a country guilty of genocide.
Did Harris forget about this?
Trump “wants them to finish the job”,…
And Biden did what to stop them over the past 12 months? Vetoed UN ceasefire twice, vetoed Palestinian statehood, sent thousands of tons of weapons to Israel despite knowing they break international law and have blocked aid entry to civilians, and now is helping Israel invade Lebanon and strike Iran. Trump is saying it but Biden is doing it now.
Whose fault is it that the genocide continued for a year and might be inherited by Trump? In the end we find out that in 2023 Biden is as bloodthirsty as he was in 1982 when Israel invaded Lebanon.
Trump assassinated Solemani. That was the starting point.
We both agree on “genocide bad” so why do you make a difference if it’s done by Biden or trump or Harris?
I think you hope for the destabilization of the USA and their downfall, which is totally legit as you seem to be from the Middle East. But don’t veil your intentions by hiding behind bogus arguments, defending Trump as the better choice. He isn’t, only for religious extremists who want to command the private lifes of others… oh wait, that’s basically extremist Muslims or Project 2024 Christians. Ahh… now I understand! SORRY… you are 100% correct from your perspective.
I never defended Trump. In fact you will find that Trump is far less popular than Harris among Arab Americans and Muslim Americans. No Democratic presidential nominee in fact won a majority of white votes since LBJ, not even Clinton in 1992 and 1996. It is white people who mostly support Trump and Republicans. An insignificant minority of Arabs or Muslims not voting for Harris in Michigan or Pennsylvania won’t matter. I’m merely trying to communicate why genocide is a redline for many of us and the Democrats lost many of us. Again it is clear that the DNC isn’t alarmed by losing votes in an insignificant minority of Americans.
You are assuming too much about me too. I’m not Muslim or religious for example.
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wow, seems both trump and harris supporters are not just pro-genocide but bigots as well.
Yeah totally pro genocide. The only one against it is you,… Hero! Everybody clap for this morally pristine specimen.
wow thnx, please clap harder as i am also against prison slavery, fracking and that two faced lying hack that dnc has given us this time. clap harder you clowns and go lick some lobbyists boots.
Vote for a fascist or a puppet of you must, but don’t come crying when the wold burns… You lit it up by dividing the force which could have prevented it over explaining why your Morales and solutions are superior… clowns everywhere as it seems, in your mirror too.
I thought that was just them being Dutch.
Dutch guy here, fair assessment.
Though I did not vote for Wilders. I voted for the animal rights party, because they are against war. Period.
Sadly, we have a lot of idiots in this country that believe that foreigners are the root cause of all problems, because of years of indoctrination by certain politicians. Which is why the far right won.
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Idk who nuxcom is but is this really a contender for best of Lemmy? You see the same comment in every other post so is this person that special or do we have a slow day?
Guess I felt they summed it straight up.
I don’t disagree with the point but I have seen the same comment more than 100 times here lol. But I can see where you are coming from.
My vote is very much on slow day and, given a choice, would nuke this thread entirely, if that helps.
If folk MUST steal other’s work, at least pick something that is semi-uniquely them and not literally a post made while taking a shit.
Actually I was eating cereal but just liked how you put it. Sorry if I offended by reposting. Felt it was a compliment.
I would instead say if you don’t vote for Kamala you have your head up your ass. Some people are too stupid to actually “hate” anything, they just don’t know suicide from shinola. Sometimes you just want a good satisfying battle, so you look around for some evil to smite. But usually a good horse whippin’ doesn’t actually fix anybody.
Won’t someone PLEASE think about the CONSTITUTION!
Trump spent four years breaking the law and Biden spent four years not putting his ass in jail. Meanwhile, you’ve NYPD officers putting bullets into the heads of people adjacent to turnstill jumpers. You’ve got paramilitary raids on college campuses and suburban neighbors to thrash peaceful protesters. You’ve got pipeline companies stealing property with the government’s blessing, while locals blocking the illegal construction are sprayed with tear gas. You’ve got a billionaire actively buying votes three weeks before an election, while the FEC twiddles its thumbs. You’ve got illegal overseas occupation of territory from Okinawa to Al Anbar to Guantanamo Bay. You’ve got a SCOTUS that’s taking bribes to issue rulings and Congressmen taking bribes to write laws and Governors taking bribes to turn over public property to private interests.
Whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.
Personally I don’t think it’s helpful to treat a slavers’ pact like how some people treat the bible.
I couldn’t give less of a turd about a constitution, especially one that’s been the source of endless oppression and genocide. It’s a fundamental reason why the usa is such a trash heap.
Article V cries out to be invoked. The most important part of the document and the least regularly employed.
This is the most absurd thing I’ve ever read. Both of them have a poor track record on the constitution. A weird fantasy people have cooked up in their head without evidence shouldn’t be the best of lemmy. It can be a fear. It can be a fear people talk about. But the best content of anything? I hope not.
Do you want to know why Kamala is doing poorly in the election odds. It’s not that she’s a worse candidate. People vote for or against social movements. Plenty of reason to vote against the MAGA social movement. But middle america is voting against the delusionment they see on the left and that they see on internet formums. This kind of disconnect from reality scares them, and they vote against your candidate.
Believing a candidate when they tell you who they are is the opposite of delusion.
Election odds? You mean the betting markets where 4 users dumped 30 million dollars on Trump coincidentally when Elon Musk started campaigning for him Pennsylvania? The odds that had her leading by 5 points that those 30 mil shifted to losing by 15?
Or are you talking about the polling, which has been an absolute shiteshow for 10 years because no one picks up their phones for random numbers anymore?
America is like 100x more powerful than Russia, so it’s really fucking weird that an ex-president is beholden to Putin.
Sure it’s weird.
His vp pick fucks couches. I’d say it’s on brand.
The whole thing is fucking weird.
But what’s weird and what governs the future lives to be lost are separate issues entirely.
If it’s weird and beholden to Putin, idk what else there is to say.
Couch fucking nazis
“If you don’t vote Harris, you hate America”
Great way to convince the folks at hexbear and .ml to vote Trump
Refusing to vote for Harris and actually voting for Trump are 2 different things, I know you can make the argument that both lead to the same outcome but they are 2 different choices
I mean, sure. In the same way that when you pull up to a traffic circle, you can go left or right. After all, they’ll both lead to the same place, right?
They are two different things, in the same way that running towards a rabid dog, and sitting still while a rabid dog runs towards you, are two different things
“I just don’t think the dog should have rabies in the first place” is a perfectly reasonable thing to say, and it’s not going to make the dog not have rabies
Weve reached agreement
“see what you made me do? You made me do the exact opposite of what you’re asking me to do.”
Yeah, nah, bro, that’s not how this works. They were already going to vote Trump, no matter what.
As if anyone of them is old enough to vote. They sound like 14 at most.
They weren’t going to vote for Harris anyways. If she magically brought peace to the middle east tomorrow, they’d find some other reason to not vote for her.
They won’t be voting in the election because 85% of them are not American.
I mean basically everyone except usamericans somewhat hates the US. Its like a love hate relationship. Cant live with them, cant live without them.
Anyone in the world who doesn’t somewhat hate their own country is kind of an idiot.
You’re right, I do hate America.
Yes, we all know that’s your motivation
I voted for Biden because I wanted to stop fascism. I hated America, but I figured the world would suffer from a Trump presidency.
Then Biden did genocide.
The world suffers and fascism is already here. You’re just voting for red or blue flavors. Death to America, I won’t do it anymore.
“I hate genocide - but death to America”
Gonna assume you’re a troll…which makes me the idiot for commenting
The US was founded on settler-colonial genocide. Surely you know Hitler was inspired by the reservations? Read a fucking book.
I wish we’d get a candidate that didn’t run purely on hey look how shitty trump is. It’s so lazy and barely worked last time.
It’s not working this time at all.
This is what happens if your only source of news is Reddit and Lemmy. Just watch any of her extensive interviews and rallies and you will get a whole lot more.
Finding out more about her is very easy, your lack of knowledge does not equal a lack of information
It’s weird nobody ever posts about her policies then. It’s always shit posts like the one we’re on now.
There are tons every day. Not surprised you don’t see it on ml
I browse all the popular instances
Because all the media will report is what Trump farted today.
She has a platform, proposed policies, lots of positive working class messaging, and tons of other stuff.
She is not only running on look how shitty Trump is. That is just the part that gets attention.
USAmerican politics really seeps into every nook and cranny on the goddamn web. I’d much rather read about something happening in the rest of America than USAmerica. It gets really annoying…
Nothing’s stopping you from reading anything else? The internet as a whole is mostly american-based, so there’s plenty out there to read about.
The internet as a whole is mostly american-based
Well that’s a narrow-minded view…
It is though. Not saying it should be that way or that it should remain that way, or that there aren’t internet spaces out there that aren’t American based. Just that the large majority of it is.
Considering America’s choices and influence impact every country on earth, (positive or negative), is it really a surprise?
Does it have to be a surprise to be annoying?
Probably not, but then it also shouldn’t come as a surprise that you being annoyed will have little impact
Never said it would 🤷
Why do people keep saying USAmericans? It looks and sounds stupid, you can just say Americans, everyone will know who you’re talking about .
OMG, how could I have forgotten that the country taking up less than a quarter of two continents, both called America, called dibs on “American”? Sorry Beta #1. I shall discard the fact that there are 34 other countries which use the demonym “American”.
you can just say
Americanspeople, everyone will knowwhoyou’re talking about USA.Fixed this for you. Kind of a pet peeve of mine when people use ‘defaults’, like everyone on the internet are in America, or if you’re talking to someone from a capital of a different country they will assume you’re also in the capital, everyone lives in America timezone, everyone using English uses en_US locale, and if by some bizarre chance you’re in another country you can only switch language and country together, etc
Ask someone from South America
Because USians didn’t stick, but their pompousness continued on. E: in the form of saying usamericans
Can’t wait for this to be over. In the meantime I should set up some keyword filters in my Lemmy client
It’s because we have the least stable democracy and the most economic influence out of any country in the world
Read it as ‘we have at least stable democracy’, hung for a few moments
!bestoflemmy
wait
Like it or not, these guys can duck up the entire world pretty badly. I can’t afford to ignore it, even if I don’t live anywhere near the U.S.
What are you going to do with the knowledge of them fucking up their economy and voting for a talking orange? What’s that knowledge worth? Are you going to pull your money out of all the AMZN stocks you bought? Send a strongly worded letter to Kamala for not being more radical? Fly across the sea to assassinate an upcoming dictator?
Why is this where your mind goes? Genuinely.
Tell me what you’re going to do with the daily updates on the election or some other dumb shit happening in the USA. I’m genuinely curious.
I’m going to understand that this is a pretty consequential election and Americans are going to want to talk about it?
And you wouldn’t have that without the daily updates? From one day to the next you forget there’s an election and need a constant reminder? How old are you? Do you need to get checked for dementia?
No yeah even most people that live here can’t do shit about it. It’s basically celebrity shit, to most people, it’s just that they’re obviously going to removed about it because it maybe tenuously has an effect on their lives. We may be cooked
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Not sure what you wanted to say but your instance filtered it.
Talking about it would be enough.
It would find it’s way to a citizen that could make a difference.
There is a reason most modern dictatorships restrict access to the the Internet.
I’m in America. I’d want that too, which is kind of the motivation - get that narcissist gone for good, and that should free up a loooooot of attention he’s stealing.
