Not affiliated in any way with Actual Budget, but I can’t recommend it enough. It’s the FOSS version of YNAB pretty much so if you’re a fan of envelope budgeting it’s a great tool. I’d even say it has quite a few other strengths compared to YNAB (free bank syncing in the EU with more banks supported for example), and you can always be sure that your financial data stays within your reach.
The man who originally invented this tech is a really good guy, can’t recommend it enough!
The number one thing that most of these don’t do well for me is the connection with banks. You mentioned that there is bank syncing, how well does that work? Can I say, just click my bank and do an oauth connection, and it will store it? I really loved Mint, and essentially want it to be done the same way
If you’re in the EU you can do bank syncing for free with GoCardless integration. If you’re in the US you need to go with SimpleFIN which costs a small sum and is in a more experimental phase than the GoCardless integration I think. Either way, GoCardless has been working great for me. Actually far better than YNAB which didn’t even support my bank. It’s literally just set up and forget.
Because the actual export, transform and loading of multiple banks and accounts data is cumbersome its holding me back.
So curious to read about GoCardless.
But is that also for consumer?
And is it this: https://gocardless.com/pricing/
Yes, it works a treat in the EU (due to PSD2, which mandates open banking) and U.K. (which is copy/pasting PSD2 to ensure their banks aren’t left behind).
I’m syncing with Handelsbanken UK, American Express, Lloyds, Monzo and Starling, all in the UK. Works a treat except most of the banks actually rate limit you to a couple of syncs per day.
Yes. You can read about on Actual Budgets documentation. It’s free for personal use. You just generate an API token. https://actualbudget.org/docs/advanced/bank-sync/gocardless/
I’ve literally just switched to Actual (3 days in) after living out of a homemade Excel YNAB clone for years and years. Overall it’s great and the bank syncing really works (except with a weird issue around starting date and starting balance).
I love that it’s open source, E2E encrypted, self-hostable and the data lives in a SQLite database.
If I haven’t found any major snags, I’ll of course become a supporter in a couple of weeks.
For anyone finding this later. Unfortunately I’ve had to come off Actual :-(
While the gocardless syncing works really well, Actuals code for merging transactions is just too flaky for the banks I use. I end up having multiple similar transactions, done on the same day for the same amount, collapse into one and while you’re meant to be able to just set a starting date and an account value, Actual kept on syncing transactions from before the starting date.
I appreciate it’s open source and given I’ve paid nothing I should expect nothing. All good. But there wasn’t any engagement in the discord support section nor any response to bugs filed. It’s clearly under active development but the QA side doesn’t get enough attention that I could get it to work for me.
While I understand they don’t want to accept bugs without repro steps, there’s not enough scaffolding for capturing data and submitting issues inside the app.
I know I could get on that and fix it. I’m not complaining. I’m glad Actual works for many. But the transaction syncing totally did not work for the banks I used and so I’ve had to stop using it.
How does it compare to Firefly III?
I’ve been using it for almost a year now and it works great. I used to just use a spread sheet to track my bills paychecks and due dates but this made it much nicer
Looks interesting. Marked it for exploration. Too many cool projects to explore and not enough time!
You need a time budgeter
“That you can self-host” Does a budgeting tool need to be a service that’s constantly running and not an application? I struggle to see how having it running as a service on some box somewhere is going to help. “It’s so you can access it on your phone elsewhere.” Oh great. It’ll have a garbagepuke mobile UI.
at first I thought this required hosting but it looks like maybe its stand alone software now. Am I right or did I misunderstand the site?
I really love it, been using it for about 2 months, came from YNAB, used that for probably 3-5 years. Although I wish it was a little more mobile friendly, it works on mobile well enuf for me to record my daily transactions and then I just use a desktop once a week when I do all my bill payments and budget catch up.
I really like the reporting options, and also it has some mass note append/prepend/replace functionality which works great for me hashtagging the expenses I have addressed, confirmed and moved around to various accounts.
I do wish it had flagging, I really loved the colored flags, but I’m using the hashtagging as a replacement and it works pretty well.
I downloaded the mobile app but it’s asking me for E-Mail straight away and there’s no way to select my own server… What gives?
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Actual is libre and gratis
I will try this out! That looks handy!
Does Actual support investment accounts / stocks? I was using beancount/fava for tracking, but have been lazy and haven’t updated it in a long time.
I don’t think one takes into account investment accounts with envelope budgeting, if I’m not wrong. All the accounts in this kind of budgeting should be involved in the budget, to be money that is to be assigned. “Give every dollar a job” kind of style. Money in investment accounts is for the most part saving for savings sake. But I guess people can assign that kind of money as well, e.g. “this is money that I’m investing to be able to buy a house in 5 years”. I’m not an expert on this so you could look up how YNAB does it, or if Actual has any docs on this.
With the price increases which will probably continue i think this is my next step after YNAB
Last night I just used libreoffice calc. Wish I was told this sooner so I could spend my time configuring this and budgeting next week instead
