Let’s compose a list of the all shortcomings so that we can address them and eventually hit 100k mau.

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    17 days ago

    if a “viewpoint” is based on lies coming from a convicted felon rapist traitor to the country, than anyone holding that viewpoint can actually go fuck themselves

    edit: as a reminder, we’re talking about people who cause and advocate for this

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      17 days ago

      What a perfect example of what the top comment meant. “You either 100% agree with us or you are a trumpist/fascist/nazi”, no in-between, no nuance, no moderation allowed.

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        “You either 100% agree with us or you are a trumpist/fascist/nazi”

        if someone’s voting for trump, then yea. that’s exactly what they are.

        if you sit down to dinner with 8 people and one of them is a nazi, then you’re eating with 8 nazis

        maybe trump voters don’t come to lemmy because they know they’ll get shat on. they’re free to make an instance of their own like hexbear and lemmygrad.

        but the thing about trump voters is that you can’t have a rational discussion with them, because they throw everything they don’t like to hear out the window as “fake news”

        so yea. they can still go fuck themselves

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            oh that’s right-- conservatives also push for privatizing and deregulating everything, small government (except when it comes to gay marriage and gay books in the library), mandatory jesus for everyone, no taxes for billionaires, all the taxes for peasants, blaming all the world’s problems on mexicans-- what am i leaving out? oh yea, this

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              Let me head over to lemmy.ml and create a list of all the things the left wing stands for too. There is no particular agreement on any side on all issues. Governments have often done a poor job of what they should do, and when they do something you don’t get any options. There are many regulations causing more harm than good. And so on - there is plenty of observation and logic behind the various right wing positions - you don’t have to agree with them, but please start thinking about things from other points of view and understanding instead of attacking someone who makes one point on every possible thing you disagree with assuming they both support that other thing as well, and also that they are evil.

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          My point is that there is a infinity of nuance between the far left and trumpist, but too many extreme leftists tend to consider anything right of them as far right, therefore forbidding discussion that doesn’t 100% go their preferred way. This is part of what makes a big chunk of Lemmy unwelcoming.

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            They do the same even if people suggest vote 3p…

            Lemmy.world politics and news subs got deranged kamala zealots and dnc acolytes driving narratives. Peak elections got them spazzing extra hars too

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      Staunch Obama and Biden supporter here … I’ve read Obama and Kamala’s most recent books…

      You do not need to be a Trumpie to get annoyed with the “everything is emshittified”, “fuck capitalism”, etc posts and comments.

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      and very unwelcoming to any other viewpoint.

      Thank you for providing a great example of this

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        17 days ago

        i mean, top comment started with a criticism that generalized the entirety of lemmy, so i understood it to be a thing that was totally fine in this thread

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      OP never stated what country they’re from, you’ve just gone on some rant about Trump without even thinking that they may not be from the US.

      Classic US defaultism.