• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    No I wouldn’t say touchscreens are out, I would say augmenting them with physical buttons is about to get popular.

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    I didn’t have a car for a few years and the one I had was 2003 (with a slight stint from a similarly-aged car during a couple-month time I had to drive). I now have a car again and I HATE that my heat/air and such are all flat against the panel (not a touch screen, though). I literally can’t adjust anything without looking in my current car. Thankfully, I avoid driving it whenever possible.

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    6 hours ago

    Thank god! Touch screens on the stuff in cars are a huge pain in the ass if you have hands as big as mine and the icons are all tiny

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    10 hours ago

    Should be illegal to have touchscreen controls in a car, it requires you to look at it to effectively control it, which means the car forces you to ignore the road to do anything.

  • MonkeyBusiness@sh.itjust.works
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    14 hours ago

    They are more safe since people can feel the buttons without taking their eyes off of the road. I don’t understand why they thought it was a good idea to use touchscreens.

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      11 hours ago

      Cheap tech that looks expensive, that is why we have touch screens. Also harder to repair for the customer to do. A physcial button is easy to replace and quick.

  • tupalos@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I just hope they don’t go overboard one way or another. All touchscreen was too much but all buttons would be excessive too

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        15 hours ago

        I disagree because you probably use the entertainment buttons more than anything. For instance, my wife’s car has the volume control on the touchscreen, which is super annoying because it’s something I like to manually adjust a lot.

        I honestly can’t think of what I would prefer be touch screen…really it should just display on a touch screen so I can use it if I want, but everything should be controllable through physical buttons too.

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          14 hours ago

          Touchscreen should just be for guidance. Maps, cameras, overlays, caller info, etc.
          There shouldn’t be any “entertainment” in it other than the radio info.

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        12 hours ago

        That’d be cool, but compatibility is a huge issue. I’ve looked into buying one, and there’s no model available for my device.

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      16 hours ago

      I can appreciate that you want them available but I’d love not to be forced to have one. My fingers are too large for those tiny things.

  • a9249@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    All cars should function like a cockpit- each function has its own independent metal toggle switch that goes 'KAK when switched. I will fight you on this. We need someone to make an interior that does this; sells well, and then the golden age of independent buttons shall return!

    • Kissaki@programming.dev
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      16 hours ago

      each function has its own independent metal toggle switch

      one steering wheel to steer left, and one to steer to the right

  • doktormerlin@feddit.org
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    17 hours ago

    I was pleasantly surprised when I sat in a modern Hyundai for the first time (Kona Electric SX2) and there were soooo many buttons. Yes, some things are still touch-controlled, but compared to what I was used to in a Volkswagen it was such a blessing

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        15 hours ago

        No, just look at it, so many buttons. Physical levers for A/C temperature control. Physical buttons for the seating heater and for the seating fan. Physical butons for the window heaters in the winter. Physical buttons to switch between Radio, Map, Bluetooth. Physical buttons to switch radio stations. Physical volume knobs.

        Basically all your needs while driving have a physical button, the stuff where you REALLY need a touchscreen are those that you should never do while driving anyways.

        I would wish that the driving selector wheel could act as a knob like BMWs and Mercedes have, this would be the best of the best. But it still is pretty great compared to the selection in other modern cars.

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    17 hours ago

    Back in the 80s, Don Norman popularized the term Accordance. Humans need something to push, pull, turn or otherwise interact with. We are physical beings in a physical world.

    Driving vehicles is potentially life-endangering. Just because the technology is there and cheaper does not mean that humans can push aside their physiological limitations in a critical situation.

    Take the emergency blinker. You know where it is, you see it all the time - it’s right there in front of you! But when a real emergency happens, you’ll be fumbling for the button, concentrating on the situation at hand. Now imagine that button on a touchscreen.

    • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Just because the technology is there and cheaper does not mean that humans can push aside their physiological limitations in a critical situation.

      Have you considered the shareholders though?

    • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      17 hours ago

      I’ve noticed this with modern standards. They just don’t have the same experience because nothing is actually linked. It’s all electronic. I miss the feeling of the linkage as I moved through the gears. Feeling the disc touch as you let out the clutch. There was a magic to that. Now it has the feeling of setting on your hand for too long.

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        14 hours ago

        I can’t imagine driving a stick like that. If it’s all electronic why bother with being standard as well?

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    17 hours ago

    I’ve been around just long enough to suspect that this will be part of a cycle going back and forth between tactile controls and touchscreens.

    That is, give it a decade and touchscreens will be the in-thing again. And another decade and someone will have the “fantastic new idea” of bringing tactile controls back.

    And there’ll be a combo breaker of some sort where a new technology comes along (probably no screens, or controls, only voice control) which a small few will absolutely love - due to sunk cost fallacy mostly - and no-one else will buy (compare: 3D TVs), and the cycle will begin again.

    Bonus points for: 1) Manufacturers managing to have cycles out of step with others because the market forces aren’t quite enough (people not having the money to buy new cars) to bring them all into line. 2) External factors like, say, the world ending, breaking the cycle.

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    18 hours ago

    But on the other hand, people seem to have a hunger for physical buttons, both because you don’t always have to look at them—you can feel your way around for them when you don’t want to directly pay attention to them—but also because they offer a greater range of tactility and feedback.

    If you look at gamers playing video games, they want to push a lot of buttons on those controls.

    She talks a bit… weird?

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      16 hours ago

      they want to push a lot of buttons on those controls

      LOL


      Even with a lot of buttons available, good videogame controls are simple and narrow. Natural combinations add depth without overcomplicating things.