Great! Now bring back phones with physical QWERTY keyboards.
I can appreciate that you want them available but I’d love not to be forced to have one. My fingers are too large for those tiny things.
Yeah I’ve gotten pretty good with swipe typing
Why not just a case with a slide out Bluetooth keyboard in the back?
That’d be cool, but compatibility is a huge issue. I’ve looked into buying one, and there’s no model available for my device.
Fuck yeah, I love tactical controls. There’s just something nice about something physical you can feel and manipulate.
Like, not dying while trying to go through menus while driving
They could go one step further and add braille support directly, it’s just nudges. Tactile feeling is the only reason they are back.
Yes, I’m aware there are no blind drives. The point is not having to look at your controls and doing so with something that already exists.
Braille isn’t very good for quick discernment. It’s much easier to put differently-shaped buttons together or put buttons into different places.
Why not both? And blind people don’t seem to think so. Either way, better than what’s in the picture.
Out of curiosity, have you actually spoken to blind people about how useful they find Braille?
Feeling for a 2cm x 1.5cm button is way different than trying to read braille.
Now try selecting between each of the buttons 2cm x 1.5cm for a particular button without having to feel the rest or having to glance at it.
Literally just bumps that are even easier to make than the text on the buttons because they are just part of the plastic mold instead of additional paint jobs. Some people are just hostile to any basic improvement.
We’re talking about something most people’s minds are not used to interpreting, so I fear that this would just add a layer of mental load for most drivers that would be actually less safe.
… Feel free to speak for yourself …
You think most people are reading things with their fingertips?
Yay, I never left having physical controls for things like HVAC controls and volume.
Touchscreens are great for context-sensitive controls, but less so for things that should be accessible at all times and usable without looking.
But on the other hand, people seem to have a hunger for physical buttons, both because you don’t always have to look at them—you can feel your way around for them when you don’t want to directly pay attention to them—but also because they offer a greater range of tactility and feedback.
If you look at gamers playing video games, they want to push a lot of buttons on those controls.
She talks a bit… weird?
Sounds like exactly the right way to talk about physical buttons to me.
they want to push a lot of buttons on those controls
LOL
Even with a lot of buttons available, good videogame controls are simple and narrow. Natural combinations add depth without overcomplicating things.
I just hope they don’t go overboard one way or another. All touchscreen was too much but all buttons would be excessive too
The touch screen should be used for entertainment.
I disagree because you probably use the entertainment buttons more than anything. For instance, my wife’s car has the volume control on the touchscreen, which is super annoying because it’s something I like to manually adjust a lot.
I honestly can’t think of what I would prefer be touch screen…really it should just display on a touch screen so I can use it if I want, but everything should be controllable through physical buttons too.
Touchscreen should just be for guidance. Maps, cameras, overlays, caller info, etc.
There shouldn’t be any “entertainment” in it other than the radio info.
Never liked them. Modern smartphone is convenient , but a keyboard would be nicer
No I wouldn’t say touchscreens are out, I would say augmenting them with physical buttons is about to get popular.
I’m gonna buy a Garmin instinct because I realized I don’t use 95% of my galaxy Watch’s “smart” features.
But we’ve still got a good 10 years of avoiding used cars. This era is literally landfill.
10 years and counting
There’s so much bullshit in new cars that’s it’s infuriating, especially considering the cars call home with all kinds of privacy violating bullshit.
Thank god! Touch screens on the stuff in cars are a huge pain in the ass if you have hands as big as mine and the icons are all tiny
I didn’t have a car for a few years and the one I had was 2003 (with a slight stint from a similarly-aged car during a couple-month time I had to drive). I now have a car again and I HATE that my heat/air and such are all flat against the panel (not a touch screen, though). I literally can’t adjust anything without looking in my current car. Thankfully, I avoid driving it whenever possible.
The answer is tactile buttons with displays behind them. Not sure why nobody is doing this in cars…
Because they are expensive.
What about extreme violations of privacy? Let me know when that is “out”, too.
something, something, open source car.
Some nerd running Gentoo on his car. Has to recompile everything every time he has an oil change.
Yeah, so the thing is, any amount of trust that I had has already been completely destroyed. “We don’t do it anymore because it’s illegal, trust me bro” isn’t going to cut it. Does the bill include mandatory prison time for executives for violations, or just cost-of-doing-business fines? Will this be enforced by a government regulatory body that is not literally outnumbered 20:1 by car manufacturer lawyers?
If the car has any kind of network capabilities and 100% of the car’s software is not open source, I’m not buying it. Period.
This bill would not need to exist if cars were FOSS.
I agree with you, the damage has been done. That’s why I’m looking at alternative methods of transportation, like an ebike or public transit. Hopefully your area has good infrastructure for that.
I’m planning to get an ebike to commute. It took me awhile but I finally found a nice bike that doesn’t have an app.
Cool! Which one?
The Ride1Up Prodigy V2 step-through CVT. It’s got tons of great tech at great price. USA based company too if that matters to you.
Thank you!
