• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    8 days ago

    People forget that nationwide elections are ordinarily determined by infrequent voters to begin with.

    It wasn’t high-propensity voters voting for trump, third party, or abstaining, it was ordinary non-political americans who didn’t see a point in voting for a status-quo center-right candidate.

    People have been screaming at democrats since at least 2008 that they need more progressive, more radical policies, and they’ve repeatedly avoided addressing those concerns. Trump ran in 2016 as a moderate. He came out on the left of fucking hillary clinton on the war in Iraq and interventionism. She lost to trump because he maneuvered to the left of her, and democrats still have not fucking learned.

    Democrats need to let go of their moderate progenitors and re-build their base from the bottom left. They’re leaving millions of voters on the table because they keep hamstringing themselves on a bygone era of popular neoliberalism, and there’s nobody left to blame now but the party itself.

    • pinkystew@reddthat.com
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      7 days ago

      She lost to trump because he maneuvered to the left of her

      Nobody voted for Trump because he was “more left than Hillary”. That’s not why anyone voted for him.

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        7 days ago

        They absolutely were compelled by his opposition to international conflict and intervention - which was a huge part of Clinton’s legacy as SoS.

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        7 days ago

        i believe what he meant was that “trump won despite being on left of hillary” which goes against the dnc propaganda at that time that sanders was not electable because america will never vote for leftist views. add that hillary was stupid (or corrupt) enough to not give anything to her voter base while trump did. shows how out of touch dnc had become.