Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.

the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”

However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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    Expert level challenge: hit a bong every time someone blames the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on some party who isn’t even fucking involved…

    God forbid we ever acknowledge the basic truth that the two most culpable parties responsible for the ~80 years of war are, unsurprisingly to many, Israel and Palestine for empowering the worst possible political leaders on both sides. Netanyahu and Hams got the violence and anger that they always wanted and have been working towards for most of our lives, and somehow that’s NATO’s fault in the peabrain’s shallow mind.

    NATO is the main thing keeping the western world and democratic ideology safe from countries like Russia, Iran and China. Is this another thing we’re gonna throw under the bus for no reason other than some vague, nonsensical whining about Gaza?

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    You can be against Putin AND against NATO. I would agree that maybe now is not the best time for this demonstration, but NATO is still a bad organization.

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        It’s a military and imperialist organization lol. I’ll give you a detailled reply but will also return the question: what good had NATO done exaclty?

        From my Canadian perspective, NATO pressures Canada to increase military spending to 2% of GDP. Meanwhile we are in the middle of the biggest housing crisis of the past 50 years, but our (most probably) next prime minister will inject billions in the army.

        NATO has supported Israel intervention on multiple occasion. Although they have timidly requested a ceasefire, they continue the official discourse on “the right to defend oneself”.

        NATO has embarked on numerous interventions over the past 30 years, notably the "war against terrorism” and wars in Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria… All with great results /s

        NATO isn’t doing shit for Ukraine.

        Your turn!

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    WTF does NATO have anything to do with Israel or Palestine?!

    WTF would leaving NATO have any effect on Israel or Palestine?!

    WTF are these people even on about?

    NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza

    NATO isn’t helping Israel… (while some NATO members might be, that’s not NATO)

    It’s not NATO’s job to get involved with with Israel or Palestine…

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      In the last UK election, an old-school tankie named George Galloway ran a party. One of his candidates, a former professional cricketer IIRC, called for the UK to pull out of NATO to better control immigration. To his credit, he withdrew his candidacy and dropped out of politics a week later once it became apparent how far out of his depth he was.

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        Galloway’s more a wide-spectrum troll than a tankie. In his last campaign, he was putting out contradictory campaign materials in Muslim and non-Muslim neighbourhoods.

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          He was at one point a self-described Stalinist, which is probably as tankie as one can get. He also doesn’t seem to have ever encountered a dictator he didn’t hail as a liberator, though that’s consistent with the usual tankie/campist brainworms (“all evil comes from Washington, therefore anyone who opposes Washington is a hero of the revolution”).

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      The idea is to dethrone the US from global power because people are sick of us having our boot on their necks.

      But the alternative is China wearing the boot and they’ve proven they would kill every non Han in the world

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      Newsflash: people are generally fucking dumb and have ever only the vaguest idea of what they are talking about.

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      WTF does NATO have anything to do with Israel or Palestine?!

      Are you for real? That’s the vote on israel

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          Huh no it’s the result of a UN vote about the end of palestine occupation. You can notice the US/UK/Germany/Eastern Europe axis clearly aligned with US interests.

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            That map is not the flex you think it is. I see 12 members of NATO voted for and 15 abstained. Only the US, Canada and Czechia voted against. If anything, it says that NATO is not as monocephalic as most tankies like to portray. Canada is the one giving NATO a bad name on this vote, not the reverse, lol.

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    Disappointed that this happened at all, but the fact that it was only 80 people is a plus. Seems like it’s just a small group of terminally online agitators.

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      Even if you are anti-NATO, you must appreciate that NATO stops Turkey from going to war with Cyprus and Greece. Just one example.