• Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    12 days ago

    Welcome to the “brand new world” of IOT hardware where you are the product and continued service depends entirely on how you can be monetized.

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    12 days ago

    I already experienced this with that one small robot a few years ago. It was resurrected a few years later but required a subscription.

    That was the beginning of me not caring for subscription based products and being weary of products that relied on servers instead of being locally hosted.

  • azl@lemmy.sdf.org
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    12 days ago

    I would like to think the community could work out the API’s and replicate them on a free server, but if this was just a glorified Alexa box, there is probably a lot more server-side processing that needs to happen to keep it running.

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    12 days ago

    Read the title as “Starbucks will brick…”

    I was thinking that there’s a lesson here in not buying things that are non-core to the companies operations

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      12 days ago

      Careful with that one. Big pharma killed my cat once.

      My cat came down with Feline Infectious Peritonitis which is a coronavirus that is lethal to cats when the virus mutates and becomes FIP. FIP is 100% fatal without treatment, and there is now a treatment (originally developed at UC Davis) that is now owned by a big pharma company. They shut down the feline clinical trials in 2020 because they also make Remdesivir, and there was a concern that any problems with the feline drug trial, the FDA might not approve Remdesivir for COVID. You can buy the drug on the internet from China, but it’s a 12 week course of twice daily injections, and you’re gambling on whether you got a good batch every time you get a shipment.

      By the time we found this out, it was too late to save our kitty, so he crossed the rainbow bridge.

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        12 days ago

        I’m sorry to hear about your cat. 🫂

        Just to add on about FIP treatment— if your cat ever gets FIP then on Facebook look for “FIP warriors” or “global fip cats” (iirc) to find volunteers who can help supply medicine

        Also note that there IS an FDA approved compounded version but many vets aren’t aware about it, and even if they were aware since it is compounded they won’t have it in the office. This means that it will take a few days for you to order and treatment is often time sensitive from what I’ve heard.

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          12 days ago

          FIP Warriors is who we went through, but it progressed too quickly because the fluid accumulation was in his lungs, not his abdomen.

          That medication is quite new to the market and wasn’t available when this happened about 4 years ago, but I will mention this to our current vet so that she knows about it.

  • Allero@lemmy.today
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    12 days ago

    What are the genuine use cases for such a robot? For when the kid has issues communicating with other people?

    • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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      11 days ago

      A robot has infinite patience and will never get mad or bully a child for fun. Ideally, this should also be true of a parent, but it’s not. From a less grim angle, a robot doesn’t have other responsibilities like work.

      For a kid who feels too shy to talk to people, a robot can be good for practice. But it requires a lot of attentiveness from parents to make sure the child doesn’t become dependent and moves on to taking to people once they get their confidence.

      Back when drag was a kid, we used imaginary friends instead of robots. But a lot of parents and children don’t believe in imaginary friends, which is a shame, because robots are a lot more expensive.

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        11 days ago

        Yeah, kids focusing too much on their robot instead of other people is one of my concerns.

        A robot can teach the kid all the right things, but it will never give a kid the real social experience, which can get rough if a kid is not sufficiently exposed to it right from the start. Even now, as real human communication moves online in a large part, children grow up increasingly socially anxious and maladapted. From that position, I’m quite uncomfortable with “study from home” trends as well, as school is one of the key venues for IRL child-child interactions.

        On the other hand, I wonder what would happen if all kids first developed with perfect robots and then started interacting with one another. But that’s a subject for yet another unethical experiment.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    11 days ago

    But the short-lived, expensive nature of Moxie is exactly why some groups, like right-to-repair activists, are pushing the FTC to more strongly regulate smart devices

    Which will be harder in the next 4 years. On the other hand, maybe it sensibilizes more towards cloud-indepent operation and Open Source.

  • A7thStone@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    See there’s the problem right there. They shouldn’t have sold the robot. It should have been a subscription model, with micro transactions. That would have kept the investors flocking in.

    If like to say this is sarcasm, but unfortunately it’s the most likely lesson these ghouls will learn from this.

  • LiamTheBox@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Its 2024 and you cannot use a product the way you want to. Can’t you just use openAI api as the backend??

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    All companies should be required to release their entire codebase under the GPL if the product is no longer going to be maintained by them.

    That way a community of people who actually care can maintain and improve it.

    I play several games that run on 20+ year old engines, long since abandoned by their original creators. The community reverse engineered the games and server infrastructure so they can still be run and enjoyed today. Same for all the folks who develop emulators and the entire ecosystem of ROM dumpers, readers, and handhelds that surround them.

    Capitalism is a cancer. So amazing that, at least in certain parts of the software world, we have something better.

    This is also a friendly reminder to donate to and support your favorite FOSS projects! they need all the help they can get. ❤️

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      11 days ago

      Not just Foss, but also open hardware.

      And Lemmy mods: stop banning open hardware projects. Just because we happen to sell stuff doesn’t make us spam

    • VonCesaw@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      um, my favorite streamer Pirate Software says it is impossible for corporations to provide code to extend the life of anything

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      11 days ago

      I’ll do ya one further: Copyright should have the same lifespan as a patent. 20 years max. No extensions, no exceptions. I’d even cosider less time than that.

      If you retained the unilateral rights to copy your idea for 20 fucking years and you haven’t made your healthy profit on it already in that time, tough. Your work will forcefully enter the public domain so people who were likely actually still alive when it was culturally relevant get a shake with it.

      There is no reason why something created during my childhood ought to still be languishing locked up in trust of some dead man’s corporation by the time I’ve withered away of old age and my grandkids have done the same. The severe generational lag of culture and accessible technology created by copyright in its current form is absurd.

      If you want to chase your golden goose forever, keep making new iterations of it that have their own copyrights that fairly compete against everyone else’s in the marketplace of ideas. Get off your laurels. Get on your toes. Keep making new, inspired things. Earn your goddamn right to continue being seen as the rightful creator to follow up what you’ve previously made in the past.

  • Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Sorry Sally, Geoffrey has to die because a company wanted to make their products utterly dependent on their servers. We’ll bury him in the yard next to Gertrude.