What are the opinions you’ve heard from people you’ve met in real life? I know the internet seems to have consensus, but the internet is not always representative of the real world.
What are the opinions of Luigi in your:
Family? Relatives? Friends? Coworkers/Classmates? People in your area?
I don’t really want to discuss this IRL since I’m a bit paranoid of mass surveillance and getting my voice recorded saying anything anti-establishment could put a target on my back, especially with the incoming US administration, so I’d rather not. (I know, I’m paranoid)
(Edit: Also, I don’t want a future employer somehow getting a recording of me glorifying a CEO’s death)
The only people IRL I’ve heard from are my parents who basically read propaganda from Wechat that just portrays Luigi as some crazy person, but, then again, my parents are also Pro-CCP idiots and hates Democrats for the “migrant crisis”, so that seems to be a trend for their beliefs: just parotting what Wechat says.
Sympathy for the CEO is nonexistent, the general vibe is “he had it coming”.
Yeah, this has the same feel as a man who got shot after breaking down someone’s door and being warned from the inside that the tenant had a gun. Yeah, it’s shit that it happened, but also, yeah, they had it coming.
That’s a nice analogy. If the world was sane and just, those in power would quickly get their shit in order now that they’ve been reminded what the 2nd amendment was actually meant for. Doesn’t matter if it’s king, president, or CEO, people in power over Americans are meant to respect the threat of violence.
Hate the right and the NRA skewing it for stupid individual self defense reasons just as much as the Democrats trying to claim it has something to do with militias.
NYC. Everyone talks about it with a wink and a smile, from coworkers to friends to random people. The only people who are opposed to it are my company’s rich directors.
Oooh! I was just talking to someone with a serious hot take.
So, back during covid, I had cause to interact with the sheriff of our county. We became friends. Maybe not bosom buddies sharing the contents of our hearts or anything, but I can talk to the man about what ACAB really means and he listens instead of being a dick.
So, the subject came up earlier today when I stopped in his office after a dental appointment.
His hot take was that if it had happened here, he would have done his job; arrested the man, processed him, and posted guards on him 24/7 until he was shipped back to NYC. But he said he also wild have personally been present at any questioning or handoffs to make “plain fucking sure nobody did anything stupid”.
He also said that he agrees with why the man is angry, but that murder is too far. Then he said he’s worried about the man because he wouldn’t know who to trust with him. A fairly conservative country county sheriff outright admitted that he wouldn’t trust most cops to keep the man safe.
He even expressed concern about the safety of the people that called in the report in Altoona.
That’s probably the most surprising thing I’ve ever heard from him. He’s normally a fairly unbending sort when it comes to violent crime. Never let them out of jail again type of unbending. But for his thought to be worry about the killer? That’s fucking wild.
Anyway, beyond that, it’s kinda mixed. A ton of my friends are left leaning to full on leftist. So i expected some support. What surprised me among friends is that nobody is arguing that the guy needs the book thrown at him, even among my more moderate friends, and the smattering of conservative ones that aren’t so conservative I can’t be friends with them.
Relative wise, my family is politically mixed. And it’s still new enough that I haven’t talked to everyone because how the fuck do you have a conversation with that many people in a week without a gathering? But the usual group chats are leaning more on the side of the guy than on the CEO. The older family tends to be more about him needing to be in jail, with a few calls for the death penalty, but the “in jail” folks aren’t exactly ranting and raving.
The most extreme of the families, of which I’m not the most extreme, but I ain’t exactly not extreme at all, they want the guy out of jail. Some are calling him a hero, others more of a victim of the system, but the main group chat of us lefties is devoid of any hate for the man at all.
In other words, it’s not a consensus at all. It’s about what you’d expect over any situation where a regular guy does something illegal as a move against the status quo.
My friend works for an insurance company. He is very ready to make jokes about it but he was involved in a meeting with the higher-ups and he said they seemed genuinely worried, as you’d expect I suppose, and had to bite his tongue.
Chad.
Remember people you ain’t got to drink the koolaid if you are working in such environments
Tell “Leadership” what you need but keep independent thinking. They don’t pay enough to control your opinions IMHO
So far, it’s mostly been these points:
- Murder is wrong. Thompson should not have been murdered.
- Nevertheless, this was bound to happen eventually, and [people I’ve talked to about it are] not upset that Thompson is dead.
Everybody I have talk to is ok with the act.
This would not have happened if company leaders implemented a “don’t be a dick” style of operation.
They would have made a bit less money, sure, but at the level they operate at, they are just working the highscore anyway, so earnings are effectively meaningless to them, their standard of living won’t increase much by exploiting their customer even further.
Australian here, the only people I have interacted with IRL who Ive talked about it with are members of my political party (we are socialists). It has been a mix of positivity and questioning how or if it will actually change anything or lead more people to joining the movement. It has certainly lead to a lot of online discourse but whether it will lead to any real movement building or change is yet to be seen. There is also the question of how useful individual acts of violence are when there isn’t a mass movement behind them. I have also seen people calling the shooter hot and such. There is no sympathy at all for the CEO and the people I have talked with all think he had it coming
My parents think it’s immoral to kill someone, even if they’re indirectly murdering thousands of people. Can’t agree on everything, I guess…
So your parents if given the chance would not have killed Hitler?
Ask your parents why they support Hitler next time.
I did bring killing Hitler up, and they said that’s justified because things are different in times of war. Didn’t really feel like arguing with them any more than that lol.
There should be some sort of justice system for deciding these matters.
If we allow people to kill when they think it’s justified, we’re going to have pure chaos in our hands. If you want to watch the world burn, this is how you do it.
The world is burning. Now. With the justice systems you’re alluding to.
People literally voted for the people who dismantled it. People voted for the same type of person to be president as the asshole that got murdered.
Mob rule will only lead you in one direction; making the Redneckistan name more than just appropriate. But whatever. Fall into chaos and end up like the middle East. I don’t care anymore. Let the world burn. Better fast than the slow climate cooking that you morons in the US doomed the world into.
I’m not from the US
Well as long as these people exist, we cannot have a just system for deciding these matters as they wield too much influence and power.
So… guns for everyone?
At least until the war is over.
Many African countries are already implementing this system, and with great success, you could argue. Well… as far as the amount is bloodshed and bodycount are concerned. I mean, if someone thought of killing another person, it must have been for a valid reason, right? Obviously, the evil ones are the first to go in a situation like that.
The US literally voted those type of people in, including in the role of the president - again. They want this system, and they got it. What you are asking for is mob rule like in the middle east.
Again?
You mean always?
BoTh SiDeS… Jfc, you’re about as bad as Russia man.
Jfc yourself.
Who the fuck is stupid enough to believe this issue only started 8 years ago? The US was founded for the wealthy and the legal system has reflected that since day one.
All my IRL friends have been sharing the same memes we see here
The few people I’ve talked to about the matter don’t care about the CEO being murdered as his decision were so ruthless and harmed many. A coworker mentioned it would’ve been better if that CEO was put on trial for his bullshit as so many were being fucked over by callous capitalist choices. That this man needed to be made an example of so those fat cats would be worried as fuck.
I’m also not sad that scumbag is dead; I’m sad that circumstances pushed the accused to the edge that an assassination of a CEO was the right answer. The system is so fucked, this should be an alarm bell ringing event. Knowing the good old USA, it will be swept under the rug until a real, large scale violent uprising happens.
A coworker mentioned it would’ve been better if that CEO was put on trial for his bullshit as so many were being fucked over by callous capitalist choices.
That’s the thing, the law is on the CEOs side. Almost everyone thinks his behavior should be illegal except the politicians won’t do shit about it. That’s what should really be going on now. Congress should be addressing health care in some fashion. Even if that only means limited action like cracking down on predatory insurance companies. Fat chance though.
So without a legal path of fixing the issue, that only leaves illegal means.
Yeah, I can kind of understand your coworker’s thoughts of this was 25 years ago, but how have they not heard of the Sackler family by now? These people will never see justice unless the people serve it up to them.
Yep, that’s why killings of this nature might rise…As our justice system favors these rich fuckers, and won’t raise a finger unless it’s truly horrible. I didn’t even know about the Sackler family myself, for good reason, as this family like to keep a low profile whenever possible!
The UHC memoriam post on FB had reactions of 95% laughing face emoji and 5% everything else. It’s not the best cross section of humanity. But, public perception seems quite clear.
My closest circle reflects the prevailing view here on Lemmy. I don’t go out much so the only other people I’ve interacted with are people who work in the same fiefdom that I do so no one mentions it.
I can’t say I’m surprised it happened. I’m kinda surprised it didn’t happen sooner considering some of the games companies can play and the emotions involved when trying to care for loved ones. The timing sucks because the kids who had nothing to do with the business won’t have another Christmas without thinking of the time they had to bury their dad.
I’m glad that of all the options the shooter chose to be about as surgical as they could be. Better to target one heavily involved person than a mass shooting at a hospital, office etc where most people have nothing to do with big picture decision making.
Now I’m concerned about copycats that won’t be as considerate and kneejerk legal repercussions since I enjoy the 2nd amendment and use suppressors often. I think this is the first real crime I’ve heard of with a suppressor used. Nobody I know wants to see this be a regular thing but hopes this will be a wake up call higher ups need to change their practices.
I’m coming off of two years (and change) of daily, debilitating pain. I’m just now starting to get used to moving around on the regular again, and trying to get back into a shape that isn’t “round.” As a consequence of this, I also don’t have a job. During those two years, I spent more than seven months collecting doctor’s reports and paperwork to get coverage for the medications prescribed… In Canada! The stuff that was covered here would have absolutely bankrupted me in the US. (Yes, I got declined.)
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