• Gieselbrecht@feddit.org
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    7 days ago

    Do you mean je vs u? Could you tell me more about which would be appopriate in settings like a police control, a shop or a campsite? I’m learning dutch but still trying to grasp those things :)

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      Welcome to dutch, where there are more exceptions than rules, and the natives just ignore the rules anyway!

      In general, “Je” is by far the most common form. Children use “u” with adult strangers, adults are generally only expected to use it with people in authority positions, but that’s becoming more and more rare. It’s still polite to use “u” with strangers, but nobody will be very upset if you don’t, unless you’re addressing a judge, mayor or your boss’s boss.

      Some people address their grandparents formally, but most don’t. It’s still considered polite to use it with much older people, like 30+ years older, but hardly will be upset if you don’t.

      Quite a few companies require customer-facing jobs always use “u”, to be respectful, but even that is getting less. My city sends me letters with “jij” nowadays.

    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
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      German here, we have the same thing (du vs. sie). Our rules may be slightly different than dutch but probably similar enough.

      Police: definitely formal unless the officer is someone you know privately.

      Shop: usually formal though some hobby-related shops (think GameStop or board games) might prefer informal.

      Campsite: probably informal

      As a general rule of thumb: informal is used with first names, formal is used with last names. Think about which name you would use in English and go with that. If in doubt, use the formal version or ask.

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        7 days ago

        Thanks, I’m a German native speaker myself - I tend to use je vs u in Dutch similar to the German du und Sie, but as the other replies indicate that seems to be a bit too formal in Dutch :)