oh man, I tried an orangepi and I cannot express how sketchy that thing was, top to bottom. It had a lot of power but that is the one good side it had (it was a lot more expensive than a rpi too). That shitty flashing utility alone make it worth picking something different.
I had so much trouble trying different OSes on it. I think actually none of them felt stable and I tried like 5 (multiple versions of each) I think.
I really gave the orange pi the ol’ college try. Now that I think about it, there was a single OS that sorta worked well on it. But unfortunately it was a weird fork of ubuntu supported by a single dude and I didn’t want the future of my device by on one guy’s shoulders.
Hired a cop who used pi’s for surveillance tech, when people mentioned being uncomfortable, they were flippant, blocked people, etc. Gross behavior IMO.
Pricing has made a complete shift from consumer friendly cheap boards over to pricing that can be beat by x86 hardware (even full blown cheap laptops).
The foundation has changed, and I just dont support it. You can make your own call of course, this is just my decision.
Edit: I should note, I hold grudges. For a loooooong time. I still dont forgive Apple for lying about a battery issue in an iPod mini being a board issue, just to give you an idea for how long I can be an asshole about things I don’t like.
Anything made in the past 10-15 years still works great, I have a couple of really old thin clients that I bought for around $20 and dumped my pis when the prices were way up. One runs octoprint and the other one runs Lubuntu out in the garage so I can look up vehicle specs and other things while I’m out there. I have a fifth Gen Intel laptop that still works great. I have a desktop with a Ryzen 3000 series that works just fine both bought used for under $100. Raspberry pi is good for certain tasks, but using it for a desktop makes little sense. Even now I’m working this message on an Android phone that was around $100 with no issues.
CPU power hasn’t changed much, they’ve added more features over the years, but power hasn’t changed a lot, only Windows has gotten more bloated so you need more ram to run it.
Cheaper than a raspberry? O.o
Pi 5 desktop kit is like $150 isn’t it?
Yeah you can beat that performance and price with some used hardware. Will cost more in power though.
You could get away with nothing but the Pi, depending on what you’ve got lying around.
Sure, depends on needs of course. Just saying I can see how someone could arrive at a better price point than a pi with more performance.
Just not more per watt (except in more burst demanding scenarios).
The pi foundation lost a lot of goodwill with me though, so I stick to the alternatives (orangepi for example) if I need one.
Edit: I a whole word.
oh man, I tried an orangepi and I cannot express how sketchy that thing was, top to bottom. It had a lot of power but that is the one good side it had (it was a lot more expensive than a rpi too). That shitty flashing utility alone make it worth picking something different.
I had so much trouble trying different OSes on it. I think actually none of them felt stable and I tried like 5 (multiple versions of each) I think.
Ive got very specific needs when it comes to pi-alikes, so I can only speak to how ive used it.
I still won’t support the pi foundation though.
Can I ask why? (/gen)
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/15641213
I really gave the orange pi the ol’ college try. Now that I think about it, there was a single OS that sorta worked well on it. But unfortunately it was a weird fork of ubuntu supported by a single dude and I didn’t want the future of my device by on one guy’s shoulders.
What wrong did the pi foundation do again?
Hired a cop who used pi’s for surveillance tech, when people mentioned being uncomfortable, they were flippant, blocked people, etc. Gross behavior IMO.
Pricing has made a complete shift from consumer friendly cheap boards over to pricing that can be beat by x86 hardware (even full blown cheap laptops).
The foundation has changed, and I just dont support it. You can make your own call of course, this is just my decision.
Edit: I should note, I hold grudges. For a loooooong time. I still dont forgive Apple for lying about a battery issue in an iPod mini being a board issue, just to give you an idea for how long I can be an asshole about things I don’t like.
Ah yep, found an article about it, it’s indeed disappointing behaviour on their part.
Used stuff is generally cheaper than new stuff.
Yeah, but I wouldn’t be sure used stuff below 100€/$/whatever could handle the internet too well, nowadays.
Anything made in the past 10-15 years still works great, I have a couple of really old thin clients that I bought for around $20 and dumped my pis when the prices were way up. One runs octoprint and the other one runs Lubuntu out in the garage so I can look up vehicle specs and other things while I’m out there. I have a fifth Gen Intel laptop that still works great. I have a desktop with a Ryzen 3000 series that works just fine both bought used for under $100. Raspberry pi is good for certain tasks, but using it for a desktop makes little sense. Even now I’m working this message on an Android phone that was around $100 with no issues.
CPU power hasn’t changed much, they’ve added more features over the years, but power hasn’t changed a lot, only Windows has gotten more bloated so you need more ram to run it.