I heard that around 43% of Israel’s population were immigrants, and they were born after 1993.
Not heard, is documented and real .
My support for Palestine includes being extra nice to Jews in my country to prove there is no need for an Israel.
I mean yes, absolutely, it’s always good to welcome people leaving a bad government behind.
But…
Do we have any statistics on who is leaving? Are jewish people over- or underrepresented? Maybe it’s mostly palestinian citizens of Israel or maybe it’s a lot of hardcore conservative jews who support the war, but are fleeing conscription? Maybe it’s secular leftist jewish people? My point is: Apart from some cherry-picked, non-representative interviews, we don’t know who is leaving and why.
I don’t care, actually. Any Jewish person who is comfortable in Canada is not doing aliyah to Palestine. Good enough for me.
Seriously. Bring them over to the US! We have plenty of room in states like Wyoming, which has enough space to fit 11 Israels but currently has only 1/16th of the population! And that’s just one state.
Israel: 22,145 sqkm, 9.3 million people
Wyoming: 253,600 sqkm, 580,000 people
If they come to the US, they are most likely to settle in the NY/NJ area or Florida because these locations already have large (relatively speaking) Jewish populations and institutions.
No no. We need to better recreate the climate of Palestine if we’re going to ask millions of Israelis to relocate. You need a warm, coastal and arid Mediterranean climate. And we need an area that’s currently largely underpopulated.
Thus, we must…REUNIFY CALIFORNIA! For too long have Baja and Alta been disunited. It is time to annex Baja California, to reunify it with its Northern neighbor! Then we will offer large stretches of land in Baja California for Israeli Jews to settle in. That way they can have a homeland without oppressing the native Muslim population.
Bad idea.
- It requires a US-Mexico war
- It ignores current Baja residents
- It smells like past antisemitic plans to dump Jews in random places (Madagascar plan and the like)
Satire is dead.
Guilty milord.
So if people who support Israel’s war immigrate to Israel and people who don’t emigrate from Israel, we’d expect Israelis to get more violent while Jews outside of Israel to get less supportive of Israelis. This doesn’t bode well for Israel long term.
I was gonna say this 82k isn’t much, but then I realized that that’s almost 1% of Israel’s population. If that’s all people who have problems with Israel’s current state, then yeah they’ll probably go even further off the deep end in the coming years. That said, Israeli society is already so insane that it doesn’t matter much at this point. Very few people in Israel actually want the genocide to stop, so their absence shouldn’t change much in the short term. In the long term it decreases the odds of Israel changing of its own accord, but I don’t think anyone was counting on that anyway.
This would decrease the number of people who advocate for Israel’s violence in the countries who provide weapons and political cover, all the while the violence gets worse.
I don’t think Jews are a significant fraction of the people supporting Israel’s genocide. I mean, they support it at below to above average rates depends on where you are and who you ask, but there aren’t enough of them for their immigration to affect the big picture.
Basically what I want to say is that the “limit state”, for lack of a better term, of zero anti-Zionist Jews in Israel and zero Zionist Jews abroad is very close to the current situation, so there’s not much room for change in that direction. We can say that modern Israel is in that limit state. And that leads us to…
This doesn’t bode well for Israel long term.
Exactly. Israel is kinda fucked when gen alpha and the generation after them grow up.
Israel will be fine, as long as they keep spending a fraction of a percent of the US aid they receive to buy US media and politicians.
As long as people are voting for one of two genocidal parties that might be true. Although at some point it will be American soldiers doing the fighting and slaughtering, while the Israelis will watch and demand to get more money from the parents of the soldiers dying for them.
Democrats by principal shouldn’t be supporting Israel’s genocide, but clearly they are. What makes you think third party politicians will be any different? Bernie is a Democrat and isn’t corrupt or pro-genocide. At best I’d say the jury is still out on Jill Stein’s loyalties. Third party politicians can be corrupted, and corrupt politicians can infiltrate third parties on false pretence. No, third parties aren’t the solution to this particular problem.
Gotta pump those numbers up.
Where’s the argument for the new settlements in the West Bank when the population is declining?
Maybe those 82.000 Israelis left to colonize the West Bank
It it continues that way it will be even physically a state made for war, surveillance, war edge technology, etc in favor and protection of west allies. With free to do whatever they want. Because where they are. They already showed it with the multiple (not just now) genocides of Palestines . The first one was “justified” on social opinión after WW2.
does that include the members of the IDF invading Lebanon ? Because those numbers seem low.
Good thing they have the option to leave the country, probably for something better, unlike the Palestenians.
