My favorite retort to those advocating for running over protesters:
If it’s OK for you to run over protesters blocking your path on the highway, it’s also OK for me to set fire to your car if you park it in the bike lane.
My ex father in law was badly injured running into a car broken down, parked in a bike lane (there wasn’t anywhere else they could have stopped). He was training for a triathlon which he didn’t get to participate in, nursing two broken arms
Sometimes even without the help of arseholes your bike lane may be blocked. Look up regularly, people.
The dude wasn’t looking up. this was 1000% his fault, jesus christ.
I don’t drive. I ride everywhere. And someone going head down teararse completely ignoring everything around them is a fcking idiot. This time it was a car. Coulda been a pedestrian, an animal, even trash, same result. The dude failed basic 101: be aware of your surroundings
Ideally, yeah and I hate cars as much as anyone, but if my car broke down I would probably do the same. If the car broke down then that is the one situation that I cannot blame a driver for parking in the bike lane
It’s pretty much a highway. Dangerous to stop on, and the shoulder was turned into a bike lane. Beyond the bike lane on that stretch was a ditch the car couldn’t cross without damage.
I’m presuming they were broken down, it’s the usual reason for someone to abandon a car kilometres from the city or suburbia. They may have been pulled over by police and not allowed to continue due to drunk driving.
It really was a crap situation where the car had no other safe option and the cyclist would have been okay had he looked forward instead of down.
I agree with you on the caring more about car users part, except that the shitty infrastructure caused that scenario. If there’s no where to safely emergency park a car except for the bike lane that’s on the town or city and where the anger should be directed.
I’m a timid person and won’t ride a bike in my town because of how narrow the shoulders are and there’s always gravel, sand and debris on it. It freaks me out too much, which sucks since I’d prefer to do that since it’s more affordable.
If there’s no where to safely emergency park a car except for the bike lane that’s on the town or city and where the anger should be directed.
Ok, but that’s my point, it wasn’t safe to park on the bike lane and it never is. Where do the bikes go even if the cyclist sees it beforehand? On the road.
If I have to choose between endangering someone in a metal cage or someone who has only air separating their meat from the road, I will choose the former, always.
This is just acknowledging that sometimes things suck. I’m not saying the cyclist was at fault, just that he would have been better off if he had looked ahead at least once in the half a kilometre the car was visible for.
Yeah, I am a huge bicycle advocate. My dream is to live in a car free place, but riding your bike without looking where you are going is both illegal and insane to me. Keep your eyes on the road (in front of you) while driving or riding.
I’d downvote you for being smug but man, if whatever shithole you live in doesn’t even have bike lanes your day-to-day has got to be miserable enough already.
No I’m in a metro area with over 2 million people, just not in the very center of it. But still solidly in what you would call the city. There are no sidewalks, bike lanes, buses, trains… not even shoulders on the road. Just occasional memorials to dead pedestrians and cyclists.
Houston? I lived in Texas for a year and I couldn’t believe how few sidewalks there were. I was forced to walk on the edge of people’s lawn a few times and one guy actually ran out of his house and started screaming at me. He truly rather see me walk in the middle of the road and get ran over than see a young service member safely walk on his grass. The kicker was that he had a big American flag out in front which is peak irony because one cannot love their country if they do not love their fellow countrymen
I wouldn’t park in a bike lane because I’m not an idiot.
I also wouldn’t block a live roadway for a protest as it is just inconveniencing others and would only alienate them from the cause I’m trying to advocate for, also because I’m not an idiot.
My favorite retort to those advocating for running over protesters:
If it’s OK for you to run over protesters blocking your path on the highway, it’s also OK for me to set fire to your car if you park it in the bike lane.
My ex father in law was badly injured running into a car broken down, parked in a bike lane (there wasn’t anywhere else they could have stopped). He was training for a triathlon which he didn’t get to participate in, nursing two broken arms
Sometimes even without the help of arseholes your bike lane may be blocked. Look up regularly, people.
so there wasn’t a road?
The dude wasn’t looking up. this was 1000% his fault, jesus christ.
I don’t drive. I ride everywhere. And someone going head down teararse completely ignoring everything around them is a fcking idiot. This time it was a car. Coulda been a pedestrian, an animal, even trash, same result. The dude failed basic 101: be aware of your surroundings
Cool story. Car shouln’t have been on the cycle path regardless.
Ideally, yeah and I hate cars as much as anyone, but if my car broke down I would probably do the same. If the car broke down then that is the one situation that I cannot blame a driver for parking in the bike lane
Again, why not on the road??
It’s pretty much a highway. Dangerous to stop on, and the shoulder was turned into a bike lane. Beyond the bike lane on that stretch was a ditch the car couldn’t cross without damage.
I’m presuming they were broken down, it’s the usual reason for someone to abandon a car kilometres from the city or suburbia. They may have been pulled over by police and not allowed to continue due to drunk driving.
It really was a crap situation where the car had no other safe option and the cyclist would have been okay had he looked forward instead of down.
Just like any approaching car. This is just valuing the life and well being of car users more than cyclists.
I agree with you on the caring more about car users part, except that the shitty infrastructure caused that scenario. If there’s no where to safely emergency park a car except for the bike lane that’s on the town or city and where the anger should be directed.
I’m a timid person and won’t ride a bike in my town because of how narrow the shoulders are and there’s always gravel, sand and debris on it. It freaks me out too much, which sucks since I’d prefer to do that since it’s more affordable.
Ok, but that’s my point, it wasn’t safe to park on the bike lane and it never is. Where do the bikes go even if the cyclist sees it beforehand? On the road.
If I have to choose between endangering someone in a metal cage or someone who has only air separating their meat from the road, I will choose the former, always.
Even better is to push for better infrastructure so no one is in danger?
Sure but you won’t build better infrastructure in that moment that was talked about in the previous comments.
This is just acknowledging that sometimes things suck. I’m not saying the cyclist was at fault, just that he would have been better off if he had looked ahead at least once in the half a kilometre the car was visible for.
Yeah, I am a huge bicycle advocate. My dream is to live in a car free place, but riding your bike without looking where you are going is both illegal and insane to me. Keep your eyes on the road (in front of you) while driving or riding.
Pick one. Just saying, whatever the situation, it obviously wasn’t a safe option.
Yeah, but to know which car to burn down you’d have to see them run over you and by that time ur dead.
Well we don’t have bike lanes so I’d say go for it
I’d downvote you for being smug but man, if whatever shithole you live in doesn’t even have bike lanes your day-to-day has got to be miserable enough already.
It just means you have to have a car, or have Uber money or be good friends with someone with a car. There are zero other options.
Rural America?
No I’m in a metro area with over 2 million people, just not in the very center of it. But still solidly in what you would call the city. There are no sidewalks, bike lanes, buses, trains… not even shoulders on the road. Just occasional memorials to dead pedestrians and cyclists.
Houston? I lived in Texas for a year and I couldn’t believe how few sidewalks there were. I was forced to walk on the edge of people’s lawn a few times and one guy actually ran out of his house and started screaming at me. He truly rather see me walk in the middle of the road and get ran over than see a young service member safely walk on his grass. The kicker was that he had a big American flag out in front which is peak irony because one cannot love their country if they do not love their fellow countrymen
I wouldn’t park in a bike lane because I’m not an idiot.
I also wouldn’t block a live roadway for a protest as it is just inconveniencing others and would only alienate them from the cause I’m trying to advocate for, also because I’m not an idiot.