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Greenland is not even in the EU.
But Denmark is.
Yes, Denmark is but Greenland is not. Greenland is considered an OCT, Overseas Countries and Territory, associated to the EU.
France probably has a vested interest in ensuring that the EU defends overseas territories of its member states for some reason.
Some of France’s overseas territories are actually part of the EU. It’s different than Greenland.
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Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
Before 2022/2014 I wasn’t quite sure why they think they need European armed forces, now it’s obvious why they need it. (Would be good if the EU stays a voluntary federation and not what the US is.)
Two front hybrid warfare is not good for the EU.
I’ve always believed deeply that the European Union was a model for how we, as a species, have to evolve in order to reach that next step. Not in a Star Trek ideal of “one planet”, but at least in a “cooperation” that allows us to stop fighting each other.
Hell…I’m even a believer IN a North American version of the same thing. Just not in the way that Trump is wanting it and NOT with Trump anywhere near the decision making process. A North American federation on good terms with the EU federation would be great as long as adults were in charge and sovereignty was respected rather an a man-child shouting out bullshit all the time.
Yes. As much as the EU has done a good job in many ways, I’d much prefer it stay a confederation than a federation.
I would like to see more opinions from the Greenland locals, but I doubt that they want to exchange Denmark with the USA.
I would like to see more opinions from the Greenland locals, but I doubt that they want to exchange Denmark with the USA.
I do know that they want to go independent and it seems as if a majority wants to be part of the European Union:
According to a poll (auto-translated):
40 years after Greenland left the EU, the mood is perhaps turning.
In a survey conducted by Nasiffik – the Centre for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy on Ilisimatusarfik – 60 percent of respondents say that they will vote ‘aap’ if a referendum was held on Greenlandic membership of the EU.
- It is a surprising result that there is now a relatively large majority in the Greenlandic population who believe that Greenland should join the EU, says Rasmus Leander Nielsen, head of Nasiffik.
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https://knr.gl/da/nyheder/flertal-vil-have-groenland-tilbage-i-eu
So the president of the greenlandic parliament made a focus of his new year’s speech to talk about increased autonomy from “danish colonialism” and continuing the past 8 years of work on a new constitution. These topics are pretty important for his reelection campaign this year. However, apparently the AP picked up on the story and now there’s 100s of imperialistic articles online talking about “Greenland makes sudden shift towards independence after Trump discussions” and “Nuuk is closer to New York than Copenhagen”.
Now Trump Jr went to Greenland and Trump is threatening to use military force to take Greenland, and all the Greenlandic politicians are freaking out that the Americans are about to take away their sovereignty.
https://www.knr.gl/da/nyheder/mute-b-egede-maner-til-ro-groenland-er-groenlaendernes
https://www.knr.gl/da/nyheder/maaske-et-mediestunt-men-alligevel-alvorligt
Source: Me, a swede who can read GL news articles written in Danish
Tack!
Thanks from a fellow Swede! Basically the only thing I know about Greenland is that it’s a good place if you want to get really really drunk. And then there is the old colonial issue. Never talked to a Greenlander, but the Icelanders I know seem to still be quite hostile towards Denmark, so I just extrapolate from there. Different ethnicity probably don’t make things easier.
Yeah, I’ve never talked to any greenlanders, either, but It was strange when my American friends were talking about “Greenland announcing their independence” when it hadn’t been reported in DN or Omni at all.
All the English articles about the new years’ speech seemed very imperialistic and all of the recent events cited were covered in a very different tone in Swedish and Danish news. Once you read the actual new year’s speech I think you get a much better understanding of the Greenlandic position separate from all the imperialistic ambitions of Trump and whatever pro-Trump AP journalist wrote the article.
Greenlanders are saying in the news now that Americans are misunderstanding the new year’s speech but now apparently Trump’s dynasty is calling it fake news and insisting that Greenlanders want to give them their natural resources. https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jr-leaves-greenland/
Anyways, it would be an interesting place to visit sometime!
The population is so small that the US easily can give each individual a million dollar. And far less will probably be enough. So we can be certain that the locals will say yes if there is a vote.
Also, EU probably needs it’s own stash of strategic nuclear weapons ASAP.
The EU is not a country.
EU is what it wants/needs to be
It has it, the French decided to share theirs a while ago.
FWIW official policy is that if US soldiers attack Greenland / Denmark, Washington goes to play Fallout.
France’s nuclear doctrine actually first includes a “nuclear warning shot”, which is fucking insane but makes some semblance of sense as in “we know what MAD is and we can play that game, but you should really reconsider”
To their merit, France starts remarkably few wars while hiding under their nuclear umbrella. And I know they still do fucked up shit, especially on their colonies but at least they are not invading Catalonia or Sardinia.
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Sweden?
Where I live.
So you want Greenland to be annexed cause fuck the Danes I assume? /s
That would be the rational and just thing of course. But this time I gave them a bit of slack, since they removed Sweden from their royal weapon. Maybe silly…
