• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    23 days ago

    Unless it’s your house that is burning down because of unusually hot dry weather … no one really cares or wants to admit that it has anything to do with climate change.

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      23 days ago

      This is a narrative created by the incumbent Fossil Fuel industry.

      In reality, everyone is either directly or indirectly affected by the fires and everyone benefits from reducing climate change change.

      The Renewable and related industries will be much better for the economy and capitalism.

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        23 days ago

        I fail to understand why they stick with fossil fuels even though renewable deployments are cheaper than ever. Although there’s misinformation and politics, they should look at long term profits…

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          23 days ago

          Sunk cost fallacy. They have already invested so much in fossil fuel infrastructure that they feel that if they give up now, they would have wasted all their money.

          The fact that that the money is wasted whether they pivot to renewables or not something they consider. In fact, if they can lever their existing infrastructure they can be much more competitive than any new renewable energy provider.

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          23 days ago

          Unfortunately, I have to second this statement. I think humans just can’t anticipate well. In combination with money, a rare event will be neglected or ignored. Think of IT security or pandemic countermeasures for example.

          I live in Germany. Europes devil is water. Lots of water from the sky. Rain the volume of an entire year within 2-3 days.

          In 2021, in a hilly area many small villages were washed away from a used to be small tiny river. Did people learn? No.

          Since that event, we had several more heavy rain events in Europe that either flushed town or drowned entire areas. Last one this summer in Spain Castillia.

          Do people learn? No, still the right-wing parties in Germany are on upswings. And so the Governments.

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          22 days ago

          If you depend on oil companies for “rationality”:

          That cheapest new energy is solar then wind gives the oil company a negative impact on its existing assets. Suppressing renewables through bribery/politics keeps consumers addicted to their product, and keeps prices high. Nationalizing oil companies, without compensation for shareholders, is both appropriate punishment, and only way to stop their lobbying corrupting democracy.

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
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          23 days ago

          Kremlin propaganda (in various ways, sometimes in free natural gaz) isn’t to be forgotten.

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      23 days ago

      The most tractable and obvious way to reduce California wildfire risk in the future is not to reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, which are a tiny and dwindling component of future global emissions this century.

      “realism”

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      22 days ago

      Shit I’ll take it at this point.

      But billionaires weren’t really affected, so I still doubt it.

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    23 days ago

    No, no, didn’t you hear? It’s all one guy’s fault. Nobody knows how or why, but Trump would never lie. It’s all Newsom’s fault.

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    23 days ago

    People need to start having realistic conversations why they are building homes in places prone to natural disasters climate change or not.

    Why is there a need for people I live in beach condos that require all that extra maintenance and are hurricane path?

    Why build them near areas know for wild fires?

    They over build these dangerous areas and now being checked by nature. There is a probably a reason why these areas were not settled that’s much until modern tech allowed people to brute force into them.

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      23 days ago

      You can still build in wildfire zones as long as you don’t clad your house in tinder. Which I’m guessing is the bulk of the homes that burned. Roofs in particular are the major source of catching embers because it’s all flammable material. Make every house have metal roofs and fire resistant siding and this level of destruction is far less likely

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    22 days ago

    There’s 2 missing adaptation policies.

    1. Deforestation around homes replaced with solar. Maybe fruit bushes under solar panels to help against mudslides. Rebuilding homes with metal roofs and solar to make them fireproof. Deforesting is easier insurance management than retrofitting homes.

    2. Utilities owning CA government to stop home and community solar has to stop. Home+community solar replacing forests is an alternative to fire risks from transmission lines, and charging rate payers instead of shareholders whenever they cause a fire.

    Solar not only provides economic value instead of just costs, it helps with both long term path to 3C, and insurance/government burden to property survivability. Solar energy is more decarbonization than trees.

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          23 days ago

          Blaming it on local/state government seems like a cop-out for the egregious failure and oversight by world governments and the fossil fuel industry.

          • 𝚐𝚕𝚘𝚠𝚒𝚎@h4x0r.host
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            None of that contributed to these fires. They were started by people, regardless of climate change. It is disingenuous to appropriate climate change as the culprit to this and dismiss any responsibility from the leaders of California.

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              No it isn’t. Climate change has changed the predicability and severity of weather. It’s established fact. They had a ton of rain months ago, which cause a ton of plants to grow, then, a drought which dried that extra vegetation up. Along with that, they’re receiving 100mph winds.

              To say that is normal there is being disingenuous.

              https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/01/the-role-of-climate-change-in-the-catastrophic-2025-los-angeles-fires/

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                You have no idea wtf you’re talking about. Look up pyroconvective effects of large fires. Climate change has nothing to do with the extreme winds.

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                  I don’t need to, I can rely on people that have dedicated their entire lives to studying it, and they agree with each other.

                  Also, read the article.

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              The problem with drought and high winds is that a spark grows into this. There was some 2023 Canada wildfire arson to prove “climate change a hoax”, but it’s the rapid spread that is global warming related, not that sparks are new.

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          23 days ago

          Sure snowflake, 90mph wind gusts after months of drought conditions is the government’s fault. It’s not like the entire western US and Canada have seen increasing red flag conditions for years which are only getting worse.

          • 𝚐𝚕𝚘𝚠𝚒𝚎@h4x0r.host
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            22 days ago

            See my other comments. You evidently lack any knowledge about fires. Understand how firestorms work before commenting like an ignoramous. Otherwise, detail for me how climate change caused the “90mph winds”, which aren’t anything unique here.

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          22 days ago

          100mph winds and drought are not that easy to fight/control. Budget decisions look bad in retrospect, but the budget required to handle this would not have been approved/popular.