They have always categorized the 365 apps, and 365 software as 2 distinct platforms. The apps are the website based versions, while the actual 365 installs were still considered a traditional install.
This could have changed in the years I worked for them, but this could be just impacting the website versions.
Edit -Rereading the article, this does sound like all 365 software will be impacted since they used the word applications. Keep in mind though, any office prior to 2013 is officially incompatible with 10/11, but they still run in most cases without problems.
Was already planning to switching to Linux but thanks for the deadline ✌️
LibreOffice and OnlyOffice are decent replacements. I haven’t paid for Microsoft Office in decades.
So what’s the news here? Win 10 support ends in october. Doesn’t that automatically mean that they will not support office apps running on Win 10 starting october?
It doesn’t end, it goes into paid subscription also known as Extended Security Updates.
The harder MS tries to force Win11 on me the clearer it becomes how bad it is.
I will move to another office suit,install, and learn a completely new OS like Linux after 40 years of Windows before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner.
Win10 was bad but most of it could be removed/worked around. This time it’s clearly war against typical users so F it I’m out.
before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner
You’re about [current year minus year you installed Win10] years too late for that. That said, if you intend to come over to Linux, it’s probably best to set time-bounded goals for yourself instead of vaguely putting it off until MS does something that crosses some poorly defined line, else you risk having to chaotically abandon ship at the last minute and making the transition much harder.
To add on if you have multiple machines in your home, move one machine to something easy like
ArchMint now to ease yourself in. I dropped a 2nd SSD for Mint in main machine and haven’t booted my win install in over 2 years and even then it was unnecessary. Currently I’m up to the family computer on Mint, 2 laptops running Tumbleweed and Fedora, a server on Debian, 2 Raspberry Pis on Raspian, and a router on FreeBSD.
Holy shit, that’s quick
losing money in the general population so gotta turn the screws on the businesses.
LibreOffice, rise!
That’s funny because I bet Firefox will keep running my MS applications just like it does now. That’s what I do on Linux anyway.
But if I’m not forced to use those tools, Libre Office it is!
For those about to switch, welcome to Linux! If you have AMD hardware give Linux Mint a shot. If you have NVIDIA, Pop!_OS is worth your first install.
Pop!_OS is worth your first install.
Debian 12 is also hat in the ring worthy, nv support is fine.
Love to, I’ve been running Fedora on my laptop for ages. Unfortunately my gaming rig still needs windows for VR stuff. Pimax has yet to add Linux support.
Either way, I’ve pirated a copy of LTSC. By the time that dies, I’ll probably have replaced the Pimax with a Deckard headset.I long for rock solid VR support in Linux like the rest of my gaming in Steam. I dual boot windows for the sole purpose of VR experience right now :(
Pop_OS is a good alternative. I still believe that most non-gaming adults would be happy with Firefox and LibreOffice on Linux.
I switched about two weeks ago to PopOS on my gaming PC. Everything works smoothly now, but I am also highly knowledgeable with computers and work as a sysadmin. Even PopOS isn’t plug and play for someone who just turn on their PC and launches Steam to play some games. Whilst all my games work now, almost every game requires a small tuning, some small fix, some config changing to work properly. I wouldn’t recommend Linux gaming to those who aren’t technically capable enough to know how to install an OS or research distros without following a tutorial.
Mint is better with AMD? Good to know. I was already planning to try Mint first because I heard it was easier on cavemen like me that don’t speak no computer.
Me, with an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, who is expecting to maybe upgrade to an Intel GPU this year and swap to Linux: visible confusion
We truly do live in the weirdest timeline.
I would just worry about GPU drivers honestly, Intel seems to be doing fine on Linux for the most part.
Yeah, it’s really the fact that I am even saying that I might have a system with an AMD CPU and an Intel GPU running Linux that throws me for a loop. I’m pretty sure I can learn to handle any of that, but that is certainly not a sentence I would’ve expected myself to say 10 years ago.
Why the recommendation of different distros for different GPU?
Mint is super old and the nvidia drivers on mint are terrible.
That’s just my guess: Linux mint may be easier to get into and more popular, however it doesn’t come with pre installed proprietary drivers. Pop OS is based on the same distro so should be similar enough, but it comes with pre packaged drivers
Nailed it. The transition to Linux should be as smooth as possible for newcomers.
Bit of a weird reason to recommend a distro for me though? Isn’t installing drivers (even Nvidia) basically just the same as Windows these days?
I just realized. Windows 10 is being shelved but there is only one version ahead of it.
I remember xp still being considered good when i had win 8 installed.
How is that not understood as as a blatant attempt to maximize user control?
Actually looking at the numbers xp and 8.1 retired within 2 years of eachother. And 10 first got retired in 2020 a year before win 11 was released to make way of windows as a service updates which is actually what is getting retired later this year.
Microsoft kindly please get your shit together… or dont and strengthen my work requests to migrate systems to Linux.
Microsoft is a lot more aggressive with EoLing it’s Windows versions now exactly because XP lived so long. It was an absolute pain for them to maintain and support that for so long and they’ve made very sure they don’t repeat that experience.
I am so glad that LibreOffice products satisfy my needs, can’t even imagine having to upgrade just to use the Office suite! That sounds insane but thankfully LibreOffice, again, is solid but I get if Microsoft Office is better in a professional setting.
That’s when Windows 10 stops getting security updates. Expect most software vendors to drop support for Windows 10 this year if they haven’t already. That doesn’t necessarily mean things will stop working, but it will not be tested and they won’t spend time fixing Win10-specific problems.
In enterprise, you can get an additional three years of “extended security updates”. That’s your grace period to get everyone in your org upgraded.
While I strongly relate to anyone who hates Windows 11, “continue using Windows 10 forever” was never a viable long-term strategy.
Windows 10 was released in 2015. Ten years of support for an OS is industry-leading, on par with Red Hat or Ubuntu’s enterprise offerings and far ahead of any competing consumer OS. Apple generally only offers three years of security updates. Google provides 3-4 years of security updates. Debian gets 5 years.
There has never been a time in the history of personal computing when using an OS for over 10 years without a major upgrade was realistic. That would be like using Windows 3.1 after XP was released. Windows 10 is dead, and it’s been a long time coming.
Now go download Fedora.
I’m expecting pretty decent software support for Windows 10 for another three years or so. Sure, there will be things here and there that won’t work, but most things will continue to work and many people who are on Windows 10 can just keep on using it for the next few years should they chose to do that. That’ll more or less match what happened with Windows 7, where it wasn’t until 2023 that I started to see support start to massively drop off. With that said, if Microsoft actually breaks Office on Windows 10 that’ll really change things.
Also, I’d offer up 2001-2014 as a period of time where it was entirely possible to stick with one OS (Windows XP) the entire time.
“continue using Windows 10 forever” was never a viable long-term strategy.
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
LOL, I forgot about that. Fair point.
So sad for Microsoft that as soon as they decided to copy another one of Apple’s worst ideas, Apple moved up to 11 instead of 10.16.
Windows was doing an Ubuntu-like release cycle on 10 with standard releases every 6 months and LTS releases every 2 years. There was no need for them to release Windows 11 other than branding. They could have simply kept up their scheduled release cadence like every linux distro does.
How are they going to drop updates for something they have to spend zero energy on to stay compatible? Windows 11 is a low effort UI re-hash with some minor kernel iterations. I love and miss the Linux desktop and want it to succeed, but it’s clear there’s a bias here meant to push a narrative.
But not Professional? Just Enterprise?
Also this is very much not the same world as when XP came out, considering you can accidentally upgrade your os instead of having to watch your father angrily fail to install service pack 3 for four hours.
And why Fedora?
I think it’s just for enterprise contracts, yeah.
Fedora seems like a good general-purpose pick to me, because it is modern, it has a large community, and it’s easy enough to install and use. It has similar advantages as Ubuntu — that is, a large community and broad commercial third-party support — without the downsides of having a lot of outdated software and lacking support for new hardware. I think Fedora is less likely to have show-stopping limitations than a lot of other distros, even beginner-friendly ones like Mint.
But that’s just one opinion. There’s nothing wrong with Ubuntu or derivatives. I’ve heard good things about Pop_OS as well, though I’ve never tried it myself.
Mint has been on kernel 6.8 for months now, and that kernel version was first released less than a year ago. They made a change a little while back to be more up to date.
So it’s not bleeding edge, but it’s also not far behind now.
libreoffice, however, will continue to support windows 10
It’s time to use LibreOffice
