I cannot repost what Flying Squid was posting here, because it involved highly disturbing and dangerous content, including:

Content Warning

Graphic content, harassment, self-harm, and suicidal ideation, which I reported immediately.

While this behavior is shocking, it’s not completely out of left field, as members of this community and platform will already be familiar with their behavior. Flying Squid has long been regarded as one of the least productive and most problematic mods on all of Lemmy, often picking fights and abusing their mod privileges. I view this change as a positive step for Squid, .world, and Lemmy as a whole.

  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org
    21·
    8 hours ago

    Okay I tried to go through the modlog and the comment screenshot that you censored is removed from the modlog?!? How the fuck in censorship that bad on this platform. I might as well use tiktok

  • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    18·
    18 hours ago

    Looked up the modlogs. What the actual fuck.

    That said, this whole episode and the comment deletions with the “we can’t share this” reasons kinda show how Lemmy is better than Reddit in that modlogs are public.

    I find it great that mods can’t outright delete stuff, only hide it. It lets them do the job of cleaning up convos of spam and trolls without the unchecked power aspect to it.

    • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
      5·
      17 hours ago

      Am I crazy or is the modlog missing heaps?

      I control-f for the ‘I to complain?’ part of the post above and don’t see anything. Just trying to follow the argument is confusing as hell? It sounds like someone doxxed FS, and he got suicidal over it? I hope gets some help if he’s seriously feeling like that.

  • Cattypat@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    14·
    19 hours ago

    Both of them are fucking insane. To devote this much energy to weirdos on the internet is deranged. They both need to devote their energy to better things, as evidenced by the fact that I had to press “show context” on their comment thread so many times I lost patience. I thought everyone on Lemmy was better than this. I dont care what the original cause of the disagreement was at this rate because EVERY step of the way, one of them couldve turned on do not disturb or gone to an alt account or SOMETHING. If either of you are seeing this, you can do better. Flying Squid specifically? Threatening suicide is the number one way to look immature (of every kind), especially over a stranger on the internet. Do. Better.

    Edit: If someone could give a kind description of what the drama was even all about, I’d appreciate it. I can’t bear to dig through either of their histories.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      131·
      19 hours ago

      And the sick thing is we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER. The .world admins are ABSOLUTELY partially at fault for this for letting this user have the power they have had for so fucking long. Sorry for shouting I’m upsetti. 🙃

      +1 to your edit though. The content was so vile and triggering, I was not up to the task. So, fair warning to anyone who wants to further investigate a case where every party is so obviously in the wrong. Tread carefully.

      • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
        12·
        10 hours ago

        we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER

        The mods aren’t the only ones at fault either. He got so much support for this insanity. Call out his BS? Get asked for evidence. Provide text book evidence and it isn’t enough. Be clearly in the right from a PTB and downvoted 10:1. The one time he’s not technically being a PTB, but rather exhibiting symptoms of manic-depression, and people defend him saying ‘this post isn’t appropriate’ when the history makes it absolutely so. All you upvoting MFs in the past have been cheering a clearly insane person, so maybe do a personal inventory of what seems rational to you and double check reality eh?

        I’d be cheering for his removal except he’s still mod of a few communities I’d like to participate in. L.W admins need to delete all his content and ban the IP address. I for one can’t wait to never see that name on Lemmy ever again and I know I’m not alone.

          • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
            23·
            10 hours ago

            It’d only be enforcing what probably is going to happen voluntarily anyways. My guess is it will be months before he uses the account again because he’ll want the drama of ‘did he do it?’ to play out.

            If I thought it wasn’t too much I wouldn’t have said it, and you saying it is literally supports the first paragraph (edit: which makes it a hilarious joke if that was your intention). He shouldn’t be on Lemmy. The damage he’s done over time is incalculable and what good would come of letting him back on? Besides it’s not like even that could stop him anyways.

            • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
              5·
              10 hours ago

              I agree he shouldn’t be moderating any community. But IP banning him from the whole site seems too much.

  • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
    41·
    16 hours ago

    BPR

    But they didn’t act in moderation but as a user so the only actual mod action here is Jordan and it’s justified to remove that comment chain.

  • holo@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    63·
    19 hours ago

    Well, seems they’ve been turned to grounded calamari. Too bad all other world news comms are already better and the damage has already been done.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      72·
      19 hours ago

      jordanlund is still around who is like squid’s slightly less chaotic yet just as unproductive twin. i will certainly be sticking to !world@quokk.au for now.

      • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
        171·
        4 minutes ago

        I can second !world@quokk.au along with !usa@ponder.cat and !politics@sh.itjust.works, and !technology@lemmy.zip.

        I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he’s now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.

        Jordan is too nice, and too much pretend-objective behind a supposedly objective set of rules, in my opinion. He tends to allow clearly toxic people and behavior, as exemplified by you-know-who, as long as they are careful not to violate any of the written rules more than twice or three times a week. There’s nothing wrong with being nice but in some positions of authority it can wind up getting abused.

        Jeffw is great. To me the epitome of his style as far as I can tell was when people starting complaining about the fact check bot, and he said “Oh, you don’t like it? We’ll remove it then.” Why it was ever some kind of more complex other operation besides that, everywhere else, is why I no longer chill with lemmy.world.

        I have mostly moved on from the LW communities and I would recommend that you do the same, so I care very little about all of this, just tossing in my opinion in passing.

        Edit: Removed the suspect instance, replaced it with blatant shameless self-promotion.

          • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
            3·
            14 hours ago

            Honestly, I’m not. Yeah, midwest.social is weird. Just a little bit. I hesitated putting it up there.

            It’s frustrating to me that there is no really good community for non-political US News. !news@lemmy.world I have 0 complaints about, but it’s lemmy.world, !usnews@beehaw.org is a little quiet and also defederated from lemmy.world which in my opinion isn’t ideal, and yes, midwest.social is a little bit odd.

            You know what? Fuck it.

            !usa@ponder.cat

            Let’s see if that is useful.

            I’m open to suggestions, as far as whether it should be only non-political news, and political news should go into one of the already existing multiple good places for it.

            I feel like a lot of the interesting news that is going to happen over the next few years is going to be political, though.

          • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
            2·
            14 hours ago

            That’s an example of what I mean about the fake objectivity. It’s hard to explain exactly, but he shows sometimes a sort of defaulting to some kind of “officialness” or higher authority that’s figuring everything out, that he speaks on behalf of, that doesn’t actually exist.

            It’s okay to just be a person, and use judgement, and be wrong sometimes. People will respect your authority more, not less, if you do it that way.

            I’m not trying to bash the guy, I slightly bad even about talking about the topic. I think he’s doing some hard work at an important role for keeping everything functioning. I do disagree with his judgement in some areas of moderation, though, and I think when you sign up to take forcible control over some area of people’s experience, you also sign up for having your judgement talked about even if it’s not complimentary to you.

        • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
          5·
          16 hours ago

          ok you are almost certainly an alt of the other user blured in the screenshot. you sent me a DM saying “you’re welcome” about squid.

          i hope you see this even though your account was banned: fuck off with that dude. don’t fucking harrass people. you are as much at fault here as squid.