I believe in Fediverse Supremacy!
From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.
I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well
And Russian and North Korea for some reason
The amount of people here who will try to convince you that NK is some sort of paradise here is insane.
NK is some sort of paradise
The bar for “paradise” is so low. Just living in a country where you don’t have chronic homelessness, endless war, and rampant medical bankruptcy seems to qualify.
This is exactly the shit I was talking about.
Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?
Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.
I think we just have a surprising amount of political staffers in Lemmy. The bulk does seem to be wealthy people living in suburbs. Look at how the biggest groups are people self hosting thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment.
Surprising amount of political staffers… As if that is a class of people. Those people are normies and not tech savvy. They’re all workaholics too so most of them probably only used LinkedIn for social media.
Your idea that people who self-host somehow equals political staffers is just asinine. There’s literally no overlap.
i really doubt any major organizations are paying for bots, at least not on lemmy. we’re just not big enough methinks
if there are any it’s probably a smaller operation done by a few people max.Meth inks?
the methamphetamine epidemic has hit the squid population hard
yeah but there’s tankies too, so it cancels out
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does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that’s what people really care about these days
(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption…)
I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it’s actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn’t a big deal since the issues are only occasional.
I haven’t checked it out yet but “loops” is supposed to be that
I don’t understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can’t get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that’s the point…
Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It’s easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can’t find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.
I guess I just don’t get the hit of pleasure from it. I feel like I’m just getting into whatever it is and then it blue-balls me.
I mean, that’s just two different purposes of two different formats.
Short form content is not made to be played in the background while you work, nor is it made for intricate and detailed analysis or essays. It’s made to have something occupy your mind during short breaks like toilet or smoke break or while waiting for the bus or something.
Long and short form content don’t compete but compliment with each other. If you don’t like one or the other, that’s totally fine, then you’re just not part of the target audience.
We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.
But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis’ of alignments:
- Impossible to place on left vs right.
- Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
- Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
- cannot align with a specific country’s interests
How about this: “Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us”
Impossible to place on left vs right
Not possible unfortunately 😅
What you’ve come up with there would be considered “left wing” 😂
Ok, let’s add some war hawking in there: A pro-colonialist stance in regards to invading Bouvet island.
Who’d want that place, I read that weird birds will steal your fish & chips there.
Sorry, but I cannot abide the Dutch
lol the British flag in the bottom right
After Brexit they just wanted to be part of something… anything.
Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.
That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me
Depends heavily even then, but Lemmy is pretty okay as a community and I think it’s been the most successful fediverse experience so far
Not just right leaning people, but also centrists and people who aren’t far enough left
My god, where will the centrists turn to without lemmy :'(
Exhibit A
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Cool!
That’s so sad. Anyway
Linux propaganda 😎👉
Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance’s admin and the only recourse you’ll have is to join another one instead…
“The only recourse you’ll have” is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.
And you’re just jumping from one instance to another with admins that can censor you again and again. You create your own instance and other instances’ admins can censor you by defederating from your own instance.
Just out of curiosity, what’s your solution?
(Putting aside that what you describe is still far more room for ban evasion than non-fediverse platforms.)
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/16065977
Basically, decentralize the back-end independently of the front-end, eliminate admins altogether, mods still exist but they only have power on their communities, they don’t have site wide power.
That wouldn’t work that well, especially when you take law into regard. For example, the european Digital Services Act regulates platforms and platforms have to respond to obligations, sometimes deleting content. Communities are not platforms, instances are. Ergo, you need instance admins be able to comply and respond to the DSA.
The server owners would take care of the content hosted on their server and would need to filter it based on their local laws (to remove CSAM for example, just like current admins need to do), but otherwise this type of decentralization would make the website pretty much a neutral zone that operates outside of specific laws since the people hosting the content (and its backups) could be located all over the world.
How’s that different from now?
Or do you want users to not be banned instancewide for breaking instance rules? Or do you want to abolish instance/server rules aside from local laws altogether?
That’s pretty big recourse though.
We already have American censorship on the top ones, which will get worse once Project 2025 is enacted…
The UX here needs to drastically improve for more people to see it as an viable alternative.
I mean, the web UI looks clean enough for me. 🤷♂️
For you yes, I’m also okay with it. Bit it’s not great as smooth and nice as what the vast majority of people are used to
Crossposted to !fedimemes@feddit.uk
Seems like there’s suddenly a lot of shills for other platforms here.
There are no bots on Lemmy, bleep bloop.
For the average consumer it just isn’t the same without being screwed by big companies.
The masses will always be attracted to the opiates offered them by those seeking to control them for greedy purposes.
Imagine the hacker news userbase getting drowned out by redditors and bots on a massive scale never seen before. Anybody coming back to the site will scoff at the idea of yet another board wasted by enshitification.
impractical, yes. But the point still stands.
Fediverse: extremely USA-centric, extremely left and queer. Dissent is punished as hard as posting Winnie Pooh on TikTok.
Downvotes hurt, I get it. But remember, it’s only an attempt to remind you you’re an asshole. It’s up to you whether you believe them or not.
How does that work here anyway? Is there a FAQ or something to explain? Do downvoted comments get hidden or pushed down?
Not as far as I can tell. It’s really just an indicator “some people thought your comment was dogshit”. Whether you take it seriously is up to you.
Meh, you’re just building an echo chamber. Everyone around is of the same opinion, everything against is downvoted to hell, sometimes bans are handed out.
And you are starting to believe you’re normal and you’re keeping your space clean of all the “assholes”. But instead you’re just way too far up your own ass most of the time.
Your downvotes don’t hurt. It’s just sad that this ambitious project that could’ve easily replaced reddit, turned into a circle-jerk. The content and opinion-diversity on everything that’s reachable from my current instance is approximately /r/antiwork. I could just go back and spend all my days browsing that one sub without any loss. But such pompous name “fediverse”.
You got nothing folks. Every community is about USA only and all the top posts are “trump bad”, “capitalism bad.” Like nothing else exists. You sabotaged yourselves. There’s no fediverse. There are 20-40k people chanting together “fuck trump, fuck musk, fuck capitalism”. On every instance, in every thread, on every topic.
And you know what, I agree with all three. But even to me you look pathetic. And as my multiple tests confirm, you do not accept any disagreement, and you cannot brin any rational argument to the table, you can only echo.
Almost every other Reddit alternative has been taken over by nazis. You’ve got plenty of space dude. Just fuck off. I’m sure there’s even a fascist lemmy instance you can find instead of here whining because you can’t spread hate. Shit, just go join X.
exploding heads once existed, but they have such low users that just shut down lmfao
But it’s not usually the people running the platform doing that. You can also find instances that go full on 4chan style freeze peach and only delete explicitly illegal stuff, but most of those are probably defederated from the big instances by now.
Imagine wanting to exist without automatic persecution and being told you are “extremely left”
Lmfao eat shit bitch ♥️
Centrists are nazis these days 😅
