You’d think a hegemony with a 100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy against major non-democratic players, would have some mechanism that would prevent itself from throwing down it’s key ideology.

Is it really that the president is all that decides about the future of democracy itself? Is 53 out of 100 senate seats really enough to make country fall into authoritarian regime? Is the army really not constitutionally obliged to step in and save the day?

I’d never think that, of all places, American democracy would be the most volatile.

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    Had the defensive democracy been in place after the civil war, we could have banned Confederate symbolism, the Dixiecrats and the then Democrat party.

    And then accomplished what? I mean many more people should’ve been executed or spent their life in prison, that’s for sure, but after the civil war there wasn’t a threat to democracy to defend against.

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      There’s been a political theory that the alt right of today is only emboldened due to the south never really being “punished” for seceding from the union. They didn’t have to pay reparation and it took literal gunpoint for them to fully integrate blacks into schools.

      (Aside: the north is guilty of segregating blacks from whites but using capital power, not political power but let’s keep to the point)

      As an example, many Confederate statues were erected not shortly after the civil war but in the 1950-1960s, right when civil rights were being decided and enforced. Defensive democracy would have stopped these from being erected.

      You have to remember that these people only want democracy so long as it aligns with their goals.

      If conservatives become convinced they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.

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        There’s been a political theory that the alt right of today is only emboldened due to the south never really being “punished” for seceding from the union.

        I don’t think they’re thinking that much about it. The alt right of today isn’t a secessionist movement so using the Confederates as a basis for understanding what they do is, I think, not very productive. They’re trying to take over America, not secede from it, and as they haven’t come out and said they want to get rid of democracy and turn the US into a fascist dictatorship, even in Germany you wouldn’t be able to use state force against them.

        Defensive democracy would have stopped these from being erected.

        I mean yeah, and then? They’re statues; they’re ugly and they glorify slavers but they’re not really doing any immediate harm. Not to say they shouldn’t be taken down, but they don’t fit in with the scale we’re discussing here.