Cross-posted from “If you could improve PeerTube, what would you improve?” by @asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev in !asklemmy@lemmy.world
What keeps you away from PeerTube? What features does PeerTube lack? If you were the developer of PeerTube, how would you improve it?
I think it’s mainly the content. We need some good content, creative people and interesting videos on the platform. Yeah and maybe discoverability. People also need to get those videos displayed/recommended to them. Other than that, a good app is always nice. That’s already been worked on. But regarding the technology, I think Peertube works quite nicely these days. And it has a good amount of features as well.
Some kind of Monetary-support system
Maybe Liberapay built-in? I’m sure a plugin could fix that.
I wish there was a libre one-time payment software
Liberapay is centralized but it is open source.
But it uses Stripe & Paypal
The biggest thing is content and discoverability.
Any good channel recommendations?
I think there are about 5 decent ones:
- The Linux Experiment (tilvids)
- Gardiner Bryant (subscribeto.me)
- techlore (tilvids)
- Veronica explains
- fedihost
- blender
- transport evolved (peertube.tv)
@ulrich@feddit.org TechLore now seems to be at https://neat.tube/c/techlore/videos
Nice thanks. I think I subscribe to 3 of them. Now we have some more!
I really liked the livestream feature that was on reddit a few years ago. Would be cool to have a fediverse version of that, where people could casually stream from their phones with just a peertube app.
Yeah. We do have PeerTube Live, but it’s not official and integrated into the PeerTube app itself. It also can’t stream the screen of the phone, so there’s that.
Ok that’s pretty close! The reddit thing was about streaming your camera, and having a chat window where you could read comments from viewers.
The other key element was having a place where viewers could see what was currently streaming. That allows people to casually go see “what’s on” without needing to coordinate with livestreamers to set up a time to watch, keep track of streamer channels, etc.
I would very much appreciate the ability to explore other instances and see what channels are hosted there from my own instance, instead of having to open the new instance in a new tab, then copy and paste the link to each interesting channel into my instance to be able to subscribe to it.
I wish there was a similar feature for Lemmy as well.
What keeps you away from PeerTube?
The app not being on F-Droid. Once it’s there, I’ll at least try it out. Bonus if there’s an Android TV app too. I’ll watch stuff on PeerTube if I’m given a direct link, and I tried playing around with NewPipe but the experience feels bolted on to the rest of the app.
Well that’s new. Thanks!
Make sure you enable “tethered network services” (due to the Sepia search integration) as otherwise it is hidden in the F-droid app. Early days, you can’t even log into an account yet, but looks promising.
I found one, but search didn’t work
So many things:
- A closed caption system like youtube. I’m deaf so 90% of peertube videos are just unwatchable to me.
- A working mobile app.
- An easy guide to instances that is clear on which instances are mainly local vids and which basically federate with everything. Ideally, a couple, lemmy.world, lemm.ee style peertube instances that are general purpose and kind of have everything I can direct people who want to join too.
- A non-personalised algorithm. Ie. recommend similar high rated videos.
You are probably already aware but YouTube’s closed captions are very inaccurate. I’m sure it’s better than nothing though.
Yes it very much depends the video. But on slow paced standard english they tend to be okay, which is most the content I end up watching anyways.
Maybe Librepay integration of some sort could help. Maybe that platform should be a little more ambitious and offer server operators and it’s users in the fediverse better pricing.
It’s surprising that there doesn’t seem to be an obvious way in the UI to just see a list of creators/channels on a local instance. So, that’s the first thing I’d change to improve discoverability.
The way I currently find relevant content is by going to Sepia Search, putting in exact words that I think are likely to be in the title of at least one video on a channel that would likely also have a lot of other relevant content, and then going through that channel’s playlists. Those searches often lead me to single user instances with only one or two channels (e.g. a channel that has a backup of that user’s YouTube content and a channel with a backup of their Twitch or OwnCast or whatever streams). When it leads me to a generalist instance or one with a relevant subject/theme though, I’ve had little luck finding content from anyone else unless they’ve posted recently (compared to other users). Often the content that is most relevant to me is not what is newest but the archives from years ago. (New content is relevant though once I want to follow someone in particular, but it’s not what I want to see first.)
Another issue I’ve encountered is with the behavior of downloaded videos. I greatly appreciate that PeerTube provides a URL for direct download, and I prefer to watch videos in my own player downloaded in advance (so I can watch offline; pause and resume trivially after putting my computer to sleep; etc). H264 MP4 works fine for this, but the download seems to be some sort of chunked variant of it (for HLS?) which requires the player to read in the entire file to figure out the length or seek accurately. Having to wait a minute or two to be able to seek each time I open a large video file off my HDD is an irritating papercut. I suspect there’s likely a way to fix it by including an index in the file (or in a sidecar file) but I don’t know how to do it – short of re-encoding the entire video again which I’d rather not do since it both takes a long time and can result in quality loss. (EDIT
ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -movflags faststart output.mp4
repacks the video quickly.) This usually doesn’t affect newly added videos (where the download link includes the pattern/download/web-videos
and a warning is shown that it’s still being transcoded) but does when that’s done (the URL includes/download/streaming-playlists/hls/videos
instead); so, this is something that happens as a result of PeerTube’s reprocessing.Downloads from the instances that I’ve found to be most relevant to me are also pretty unreliable (connection is slow and drops a lot), so I use wget with automatic retries (and it sometimes still needs manual retries…) rather than downloading through my browser which tends to fail and then often annoyingly start over completely if I request a retry… It would be really nice if I could check that I’ve downloaded the file correctly and completely with a sha256 hash or something.
Search on all these federated sites is terrible. We need several user-selectable algorithms that display feeds from all instances
It’s mainly finding videos for me. I’ve been able to find a few interesting ones, but largely it’s either difficult to find, or not there at all. I myself have actually been considering making some videos to help the content drought, but then the ideas, or knowledge of what people could be receptive to doesn’t quite come.
also as a newpipe user, being able to search all of my selected instances at once, or with sepiasearch could be nice, but thats not up to peertube
Better federation. The vidiverse search is just bad, i want to watch all types of content from my account.
And more general instances; i’m on spectra.video now, but as i said the vidiverse search sucks and it’s not federated to enough instances :/
There’s Sepia Search, but I don’t really understand why that’s not just built into the Peertube UI itself.
Yeah :/ in some instances it is, but it’s usually broken.
I especially wish i could actually interact with those videos from my account, such as liking or commenting. There are three types of instances: no sign ups, outdated or no content on them.
What’s peer tube?
Is the P2P component what makes or breaks this platform? It sounds like this is key to its success.
Are PT hosts also part of the P2P network? I could see hosting costs increase dramatically as a result of hosting popular content.
More content. We need 100% of the Creative Commons videos on YouTube to be mirrored, to start
We had vidcommons.org once, that hosted a lot of CC content. Unfortunately the owner couldn’t afford to keep it running.
If you now a source of CC videos, let me know.
Getting Lemmy(and other fedi services) to fully support linking videos would help. Piefed and and other platforms support it pretty well.
for example: https://piefed.social/post/398574
direct link vs just the url. Lemmy will not work with the direct link like this nor the comments appearing in both instances.
Misskey has a pretty great support for peertube.
It used to work fine in Lemmy, but somewhere along the line it seems to have broken.
Yeah it’s been a little less than a year since it stopped working. I saw the GH issues, looks like the Lemmy devs took the position the Peertube devs need to fix…something with activityhub. I hope they fix things. Lemmy development vs the actual instances seem a bit more fragmented than the rest of the fediverse.
I tried to take a look with my local Lemmy instance but it looks like the issue resides in how different Lemmy uses activityhub than other software. I don’t claim to know why they made the change but they seem to be the odd one out.
@asudox I love the idea of peertube. I have a couple of accounts. It used to be easier to load new content by URL when it supporfted input from YouTube, but YT has gone out of their way to maintain their virtual monoply. In order for such a service to be more useful than just sharing videos with your immediate friends and family you need a way for creaters to make money, which i think is going to be easier on #NOSTR . I think a better question is how do we make nostr useful for more than just bitcoinbois.
@asudox then again having a tool that is only used for sharing videos with immediate friends and family is fine too. Not everything needs to be focused on killling off a particular non-free software for it to have value in and of it self.
How does nostr make it easier to monetize video plays?
@jagged_circle sorry the entire decentralized NOSTR interface is based on the lightning network. So while most clients support “likes” what it more prevalent is “Zaps” a Zap is a micropayment of bitcoin over the lightning network (one zap is equal to one Satoshi equivalent to 100 millionth of a bitcoin). This incentivizes both the infrastructure and the content. Make something people like, get paid without a central corporation exploiting.