• ffc0cb@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Idiots don’t fact-check, and now we all pay the price. We can leave Twitter, Bluesky, Reddit, whatever—but nothing can stops them anymore.

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    The fucking Russian shills cried on Reddit resulting in permanent bans. They will be here soon enough.

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      the us knew what it was doing and ukraine has learned a hard lesson about having america as an ally. i didn’t know how aggressively hivemind it was around here, its a little more like reddit than one would hope… 90 downvotes, that’s like half the community :p give or take a few bots, i’m sure.

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      Hey Ivan, the Russian infantry is looking for volunteers. Don’t worry the NATO tungsten will be greet your worthless ass. Take the MAGAts with you!

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        Used to dream of that when I was a kid. Glory to the motherland and all. But now - Russia is like a little us clone.

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      I too love genocidal regimes and war crimes. Can’t get enough of that mass slaughter of civilians and kidnapping of children.

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          I voted for Kamala to prevent my own gay daughter from being part of Trump’s genocide. Sorry, I care about my daughter more than anyone else in this world and I am going to do what is best for her. Which is why we fled the U.S. when Trump won.

          But let me guess- I should care about people other than my daughter first. And also, queer people aren’t in any danger under Trump.

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            Honestly, props to you for fleeing the US while you could, the genocidal empire is on a spiral to fascism. May I ask where you’ve decided to move?

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                Welp, here’s hoping that western Europe doesn’t end up going in the same direction. I’m western European myself and I’m fucking afraid of the fascist spiral we’re seeing here too.

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            wow, i didn’t know your own gay daughter was going to be genocided by trump. you realize the democrats would’ve had a much better chance to win and prevent his second term if they weren’t helping israel with their extermination campaign. – you know the one that is real and actually happened (is happening)

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              Called it. There’s only one genocide that matters and it only matters because Palestinians can be used as a pawn in internet argument.

              Fuck queer people as usual.

              By the way, there are queer Palestinians, many in the U.S. I want you to find one and tell them that they have nothing to be worried about. Not that you will since you’ve already decided fuck them.

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                  Is your brother Palestinian? Otherwise that is irrelevant except to show that you don’t really care about his life. Which doesn’t shock me.

                  But you only sort of caring about the Palestinians who fit the cishet mold is noted.

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        Kidnapping? Palestinians dream someone kidnap their kids like that - got them away from warzone with food and shelter.

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            That’s a propaganda article.
            They are removing children away from Frontline, something Palestinians can only dream of.

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              You’ve lied about me over and over and now you expect me to believe that?

              Still waiting to hear what you’ve done to try to stop the genocide. Other than lie about people online, obviously.

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                I called my reps.
                And I advocate online.

                U just banned me under some absolutely fake reason. Go home israelloving troll

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                  Still lying about me I see.

                  And I think we both know why.

                  Looking it up, I see the “fake reason” you were banned was bigotry.

                  Doesn’t look like a fake reason to me.

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            Wikipedia, according to itself, isn’t a reliable source when it comes to such internationally hot topics. It’s primarily written by western young men who are mostly exposed exclusively to western media, and the articles they write are referenced by this same media. If you wanna read a bit more on this, I did a writeup some weeks ago about this very topic, sourcing my information from wikipedia itself.

            With this I don’t mean to say that the accusations you’re showing are false, I honestly don’t have enough information to confirm or deny it, but in times of war information is a powerful tool and media from both sides won’t doubt to distort information to benefit their own countries.

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              They literally cite their sources. They always cite their sources. Just dismissing it as “Wikipedia is written by Westerners” pretends that isn’t true. And I know you’re not that stupid.

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                Could you please do me the favour and read my writeup before responding like that? I addressed what you’re saying.

                Wikipedia itself has an article on its own bias, and an article on which sources the wiki editors consider reliable. Feel free to read my writeup for extended info on that.

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                  Is your writeup about that specific article? Because if not, it’s irrelevant. You can judge whether the source is reliable by going there, which you are apparently unwilling to do because you’ve already decided it’s too biased.

                  Also, there are Wikipedia editors from all over the world. I think you know that too.

                  Seems like your real problem is they’re being big meanies to Russia which only has the best intentions for Ukrainians and would never commit any war crimes.

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          this place feels more like reddit everyday… western colonial echo chamber masquerading as ‘the good guys’ (referring to your downvotes i mean)

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            Let me guess- you think I think I’m one of the good guys.

            But there are no good guys. Humans are selfish assholes. All of them. Unless you want to argue that you are one of the good guys.

            Bet you think I’m lying about not being an Israeli too.

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              no i don’t think you’re one of the good guys.

              good people exist

              i don’t care where you’re from.

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            Don’t have to try Squidward , it’s a reality. U are genocide supporter.

            Answer this question - should Palestinians have rights and not be bombed indiscriminately?

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              Of course they should. That’s why I spend hours every week contacting politicians to stop this genocide.

              What have you done about it?

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    It’s always been there, it’s easier to moderate them out than it is on the alternatives. Would rather still be on bsky/mastodon than whatever the fuck.

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    Ukrainian source. There is Ukrainian/western warmongering/self diminishing/impoverishing disinformation/narratives, including Ukrainian propaganda reposted verbatim such as this article. All counter narratives are labelled pro-Russian disinformation. Very common on all social media.

    I have no idea whether there are some bot accounts on Bluesky, but it would be “not good” if Bluesky’s bans are exclusively against anti-warmongering bots, to promote the Ukrainian/NATO bots/content, which on other social media, have deeply funded “SEO scoring” already.

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    I remember there was a time on the internet where “Don’t feed the trolls” and “True story, read it on the internet” was a thing. Would be nice if they were a thing again. Even in this thread, obvious trolls are being engaged and motivated to spew their filth.

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      The tragic irony of boomers is they told all their kids “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” and then failed to internalize the lesson for themselves.

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    At least this anti-Ukrainian spam seems to get flagged as such in my polish corner of Bluesky. Wondering how long that will last and if we’ll see Jack Dorsey doing fascist salutes on stage too.

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      Wouldn’t want to be getting any criticism in your feed of an authoritarian far-right dictatorship, now would we? Can’t have these tankies calling for elections or banning Nazi symbols!

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        It’s funny that I can interpret this in every way possible. Yes, I prefer to be able to be critical of US or Russia on my social media without getting downranked. Yes, I’m for free elections in Belarus. I’d be for banning nazi symbols but they’re banned where I live already.

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          Haven’t you heard? When Ukrainians declare themselves Nazis, cover themselves in Nazi patches, and refuse to hold elections, it’s “complicated” and we’re not allowed to talk about it.

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            Yes, and because there are Nazis in their army and refuse to hold elections in a war-thorn country, they all deserve to either be killed with the pretense of being nazis, being their children kidnapped and given to Russian families, and beaten and raped until they forget that ugly Russian dialect some dare to call “the Ukrainian language”.🤡

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              they all deserve to either be killed with the pretense of being nazis, being their children kidnapped and given to Russian families

              Russia is the only side that has set “status quo conditions” for avoiding war. West+Ukraine chose this war. That orphanages in Crimea were evacuated to “safety”, and included a few ethnic Ukrainian children is not the “horror” it’s hyped to be.

              It’s fair to blame the side fighting for nazification and nato for the war.

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                  No. Killing ethnic Russians for 8 years, and not implementing the autonomy agreements, chose the war. Ukraine can peacefully join EU or have greater EU trade.

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              Do you believe this to be a reasoned response to my concern about real, self-identified Nazis empowered by the US? Do you think that countering Nazi criticism with reflexive projection of genocidal intent is helping your case?

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            Unfortunately every countries military has nationalistic fascists, some of which use Nazi iconography to display their “pride”. I could find the 1940 Swedish general election (not at war), 1942 Icelandic parliamentary election (occupied by USA), 1943 & 1944 Irish general elections (not at war) as the elections held between Sep 1939 & Sep 1945, the other democratic European country’s I reviewed, elections were either postponed or went uncontested.

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        He quit and Mike Masnick, of Techdirt fame, replaced him which is a good upgrade.

        Unfortunately, they still have Aaron Rodericks on trust and safety, who’s cozy with Singal.

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    it is normal because the platform is growing and then BSKY public blocklist will be bigger to counter this.

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    The amount of bots on that sh*tty platform is insane. I left it for Mastodon.

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    “Thank you, AI !”

    P.S. If Russians will be in Nurnberg court they will say something like “it’s not our fault, it’s putin’s fault.”