Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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    In fairness, this is BS. A leaked Israeli paper from early 2024 stated that that IDF and the Israeli’s government overall goal WAS to remove all people from Gaza. Once and for all, if they could get away with it. The fact they systematically destroyed whole towns and places of culture educates us and reinforces that this was the plan all along. Trump is an Israeli puppet, nothing changes there, but the removal of people and the destruction of Gaza was the Israeli plan all along. This was known.

    It is THEIR land. Their home. Why should they be shipped anywhere? That is an outright crime.

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    I’m sure the Palestinians are grateful the Democrats didn’t win.

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      Typical first world sheltered westoid.

      Palestinians on the ground are being starved, bombed and shot at. You think they give a shit about american elections, idiot? Go outside.

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      What would a Democratic win have changed here? Have you already forgotten then 15 previous months where Democrats were sending Israel cash, jets, 2,000lb bombs, arms, and every other tool they needed to continue their genocide?

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          I’m half convinced that these are just bots here to drum up infighting as any post mentioning Israel seems to get flooded with these comments, and almost none of the commenters ever respond to replies.

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            Oh, they respond. Turns into days long flame war if you don’t just stop responding yourself. Still bots afaict though, either that or extremely confident idiots.

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              Do you think the “days long flame war” might not happen if you didn’t do things like call people idiots?

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                Yes. I think if liberals didn’t call people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote pro-genocide “idiots” then the flame wars wouldn’t go on.

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                ^ This guy IMMEDIATELY starts a flame war with someone else under the same comment. Holy fuck man.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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                  You mean a “flame war” where I never insulted anyone?

                  Sounds like a pretty one-sided war.

                  Interesting, also, that you are defending the person who just out-and-out lied about me calling them and other people idiots.

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      What evidence do you have that Kamala would have opposed this idea as president? Has she released any recent statement condemning the idea? It’s actually a lot easier for her to do so now than it would have been with her as president. She’s a private citizen now; she need not fear AIPAC campaign dollars. She need not fear offending Biden. She’s not lifting a finger to condemn the idea now, when she faces zero downside in doing so. What makes you think she would have opposed it as president?

      Sure, Trump is a lot more vocal in his support of ethnic cleansing than Kamala would have been. But I think Kamala would have simply looked the other way and refused to intervene if Israel attempted it. I see zero indication in her actual behavior that she would have intervened if she was currently president.

      • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Biden literally sanctioned them just for settling, Trump reversed it.

        Of course this wouldn’t have happened under Kamala. It may have dragged on for a bit, but they delayed the ceasefire until Trump got in, if he lost - they were down bad in an increasingly worsening PR situation and were somewhat tied to that. Now they don’t care, look at them. Probably launch gaza baby NFTs and pocket the profits too just for kicks.

        Straight into the west bank as Adelson paid $100m for the privlege, and now celebrating an ethnic clensing. There won’t be a palestine at the end of this term.

        • dx1@lemmy.world
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          How many people did Biden sanction? List the names.

          Do you understand why we keep saying everything Biden “did to help” was symbolic and completely worthless? That he did those things while vetoing ceasefires at the UN and sending tens of billions of dollars in bombs for them to commit mass murder with? That this is the behavior of an actual psychopath who’s complicit in genocide?

          The sooner you all stop running from reality, the sooner we can start fixing this.

          • pedro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            You seem not to realise the way to "fixing this’ is through a political process and you fuckers are locked in for 4 years of a dude who doesn’t know what shame it’s.

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              Are you seriously saying people who got bombed for a year that their only option is through a “political process”.

              Lmao if I was palestinian I would only want to bomb new york.

          • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Fuck up you dishonest fascist enabling piece of shit. Go look it up yourself. You have picked your side, we’ll fix it without you maniacs eventually.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        Are you seriously arguing that we didn’t know what Kamala would do on this so Trump, who was very clear about it, was a better alternative?

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          That’s

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          And that’s why you lost. As long as you’re ready to throw foreigners under the bus you will just be seen as the scum you are.

      • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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        Have more alternatives in the voting booth by passing state level electoral reform! Then people could vote for who they want and still have their vote count against the Republicans.

        Who could possibly say no to having more then one chance to beat the Republicans?

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      I’m sorry to disappoint you but we are unhappy with both parties. Biden is an absolute devil for allowing this genocide to unfold and providing both weapons and rhetorical and political support. Trump is an absolute devil too, the difference is that he’s absolutely unhinged and says the quiet part out loud.

      I feel sorry for the domestical issues this is causing you now and the general chaos this guy creates but for us Palestinians Democrats and Republicans aren’t much different in their support for Zionism.

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    god damn the liberal smugness in this thread is revolting

    you’re seeing a fucking genocide being orchestrated right before your eyes and all you can think of is “well at least I voted for the slightly less worse party” ???

    go fuck yourselves

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      Fuck yourself sideways with your indignation. We warned you over and over what would happen. You want to clutch your pearls now? Your personal stupidity, obstinance and bigotry is turning what was a horrible apartheid into an ethnic cleansing. This is YOUR fault.

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        ah but why didn’t i, the person living in canada, vote??? clearly a moral failing on my part /s

        im not arguing against voting for the lesser evil. i think it’s a worthwhile action to do, sometimes.

        what i find disgusting is the reaction here. we should all be horrified at this, talking about what we can do, if anything, and what are y’all saying? “uuh i fucking told you lol, lmao, hope you’re happy lol”

        NO ONE’S HAPPY ABOUT THIS!!!

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    Wow it’s almost like this was predictable. Good thing all those liberals who didn’t vote for Harris could not have possibly known Trump would be even worse…

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      These Arabs who rallied against Harris, super brains I am telling you.

      Vote for some Russian plant instead. What could go wrong?

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    If you have absolutely no empathy for fellow human beings, no sense of morality, no concern with topping off a holocaust with a cultural genocide, no concern with what anyone wants for themselves …… I guess that describes the orange guy

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    At this point I’m all for anything that puts some peace and quiet in that area (that doenst envolve a Jew genocide)

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      Man the phrasing for this comment is so suspicious. People who care about Jewish people do not use “Jew” as an adjective.

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        It’s called not having English as a native language. I know this concept is hard to grasp for murican but please try.

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          That’s good to hear. In the future, don’t use “Jew” as an adjective. It’s pretty much exclusively used by antisemites.

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              Jewish.

              Though for this specific topic “genocide of Jewish people” would be better than “Jewish genocide” as the latter is unclear if the genocide is being perpetuated by or against Jewish people (and also the larger Jewish population shouldn’t be held responsible for the actions of Israel). Neither would have alarm bells going off in the same way as using “Jew” as an adjective though. That’s a very specific white supremacist phrasing.

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    Yes, I’m sure this would all be very sad for Palestinians but the important thing is that Genocide Joe learned his lesson.

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    The important thing is that everyone should know my hands are clean of this because I didn’t vote for either party.

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    Wellllll technically those who voted against Kamala to stop israeli genocide got what they wanted. Israel no longer has to genocide Palestinians.