• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Oh look, someone who thinks that “Jew” and “Israeli” are synonyms.

      As always, no matter where I live, no matter how much I say I hate Israel, I will always be a foreigner and a Zionist.

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        17 days ago

        Really? You really think that? I know that plenty of Jewish outside of Israel don’t support the current genocide of Palestinians, and I know plenty do.

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          17 days ago

          I think you sure as fuck implied it, when you said:

          It would mean more if Israel weren’t actively genociding Palestinians.

          Why would it mean more unless Jew and Israeli were synonyms?

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              17 days ago

              Ah, I see, so it isn’t “Jew = Israeli,” it’s “Jew = Pro genocide.” Totally different.

              Do you also expect every Muslim to denounce ISIS every time they face bigotry themselves? I bet you don’t.

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                  17 days ago

                  You’re evading. I didn’t ask if they were. I asked if you expected it. Do you? Or are only Jews expected to denounce genocide every time they face bigotry in your view?

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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              16 days ago

              Y E S

              Log the fuck out, go outside, and meet some people. A lot of us grew up raised by holocaust survivors and we have very strong opinions that Israel’s genocide against the people of Palestine is truly and wholly horrible.

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          17 days ago

          I’m Jewish. I do not support Israel and I never have. The ADL does not speak for me.

          But I’m going to guess you’ll call that typical Jewish lies.

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          17 days ago

          Right, it’s not a genocide, they’re simply killing everyone that is living in a specific region. In fact, between the dead there aren’t exclusively Palestinians, but also some aid workers, volunteers from western countries and sometimes even their own kidnapped citizens. So it is not strictly a dictionary definition of genocide, rather a “mass murdering of the population”.

          In fact, I don’t see why they’re paying billions to Google to place AI on weapons when the algorithms seems to be like “hospital = target” and “if it moves = target”

          • FelixCress@lemmy.world
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            17 days ago

            Stop talking rubbish. Israel is actively performing a genocide of Palestinians, other people are just a collateral damage.

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            16 days ago

            they’re simply killing everyone that is living in a specific region

            there’s a word for that. it’s called “genocide”

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          17 days ago

          Long time no see russian bots 👋 How was your vacation after telling people not to vote Harris?

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    15 days ago

    I think they should fund Jewish folks getting guns, ammo, and training. Oh, and moving vans and arranging for shelter in Blue States. Musk wants your lives and to add what smidgen of wealth you have to his hoard.

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      17 days ago

      “Us guys” do not universally support the ADL.

      Just like we do not universally support Israel.

      Can you guys stop deciding what every Jew supports? I’m getting really fucking tired of both telling people that you’re wrong and being told I’m the wrong one back because of my genetics.

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        17 days ago

        You may be a leader and you may be Jewish, but I interpreted that comment to specifically mean the people in power who maintain this connection. That is, “you guys” sounds like an appeal to the Jewish leaders referenced in the article, the US leaders that support the ADL, or both.

        I might be wrong, I don’t know OP or what they truly believe. If there is context I’m missing that changes the message, I will stand corrected.

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          17 days ago

          I never suggested I was a leader, but even plenty of Jews in leadership positions of Jewish organizations do not support the ADL. We can start with Jewish Voice for Peace.

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    16 days ago

    Well they should’ve thought about that before the elections. It’s now unwise to antagonize an all powerful dictator.

    Even though his scapegoat isn’t the Jewish people, I don’t think it’s impossible they’d still add you to the list later on.

  • Spzi@lemm.ee
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    16 days ago

    What are the Holocaust Jokes referenced in the title? Didn’t find an explanation in the article.

    For context, I’m a German missing out on many news and stories, for sanity reasons. But I’d like to know more about this.

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      16 days ago

      Elon’s response to the world saying they saw a Nazi salute at the presidential inauguration. Not quite an “oops, I didn’t mean it that way”

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        Elon’s response to the world saying they saw a Nazi salute at the presidential inauguration. Not quite an “oops, I didn’t mean it that way”

        Oh, WOW! Glad I asked. Will happily add this to a conversation with a ‘skeptical’ friend.

        Honestly, I found some genuinely funny and actually laughed. But I would never share stuff like that in public, if at all, certainly not in a position like Musk, especially not after that salute. Guess he’s testing the waters or normalizing.

        Anyways, thanks a lot for the info with screenshot! Once more, reality trumps satire. When asking the question, I thought it might be about some hints here and there requiring interpretation. I did not expect something so blatant.

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          16 days ago

          yeah, I think context really matters here. He also made these jokes on Jan 23, the day that Auschwitz was liberated, and is held as a day of remembrance. He’s got a dog train whistle.

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    16 days ago

    In what let’s call the Jewish diaspora there is a strong thread of fascism. The fascists currently (and for some time now) are in control of the israeli government. If the israeli people were not in support of such fascism they are doing a poor job of expressing it. Globally fascism among jews is not universal, probably not even a majority though I have no hard data here. Anecdotally among the Jewish people I know there is one rabidly fascist of the kill all the Palestinians ilk, a few who claim not to support genocide but will get loud and in your face at any criticism of it and many who are disgusted by it and will openly say so. Your mileage may vary.

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      16 days ago

      Oh look, yet another person who thinks that Jews genetically support genocide in Gaza.

      Because it’s really fucking obvious from multiple responses in this thread that saying, “I do not support Israel or its genocide and never have” is not good enough. Not when you have the genocide gene.