• eatthecake@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I don’t own or want a car. My housemate drives me to work. It’s a 7 minute drive, 50 minutes by public transport. You need to put on 10 minute buses on multiple routes through every suburb 24hrs to make public transport a viable option for most people.

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      1 month ago

      The problem with transit is more about how cities are designed, zoned, and built. If we built cities for people instead of cars the vast majority of people in a city would likely have faster commutes on transit than driving a private vehicle.

      Other things can help with this as well such as transit signal priority.

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        1 month ago

        It’s a 7 minute drive, i practically live in the same suburb. I also work evening shift. Are you going to put on a bus to everywhere for those 250 people who finish work at 230am? Must all of us work and live next door? I try to live as close as possible but you cant ask everyone to do that. A job change shouldnt mean you are required to move house. Its just not feasible for a city of millions to move every time they change jobs. And its not feasible to put on a bus service so me and a couple of others can get home at 230am.

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          You’re right, it isn’t feasible to always use a bus, thats why walking, cycling, trams, and light rail should also be used. The biggest problem is density. Low density makes it very difficult to effeciently service, yet many north american zoning and building codes make it very difficult to build any housing that isn’t detached single family homes with minimum parking standards and set backs.

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      Or design cities to have better bike lanes, light rail, etc.

      It’s really hard to imagine in most US cities, and it was hard to believe when I lived there.

      I’m in a very commuting-friendly place now and the small towns having easy access to good public transport is just reality, and it feels fantastic.

      I hope someday more places will adopt that type of design mentality

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        1 month ago

        Im a woman and i finish work at 230am. Im not going to expose myself to the risk of riding a bike home. If i worked day shift that would be ok but its just not safe for me to bike home at that hour.

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          Risk of what? Getting run over? It’s actually better since 2:30 AM = less traffic. Getting assaulted and/or abducted? Good luck for would-be criminals catching up with you on foot. Even if they’re in a car, they usually have to get out of it in order to do their stuff and that limits them to running speed.

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            You’re an idiot. Criminals see patterns and take advantage. If i walk through the same streets and park every night and they see me every night they can easily predict my behaviour and take advantage. I have a decent paying job, plenty of money and a vagina. I am at risk. Grow the fuck up.

            • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOP
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              Most criminals are capitalists.

              Most people who commit crimes the police would consider crimes are drug addicts, poor, or preying on people they already know - like spousal rapists and pedophile priests.

              Since you don’t have to worry about the third category any more on a bike than in a car, that leaves people who are poor, desperate, and have compromised judgement. They ain’t setting an ambush and waiting all night to catch you. They’re shoplifting and stealing catalytic converters. Your hoo-hah ain’t a bank vault.

        • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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          1 month ago

          i finish work at 230am.

          Maybe should’ve start with that next time, people would’ve understand it because public transport tend to not run at midnight. And your situation is unique, so i’m not sure why you need to compare both cases.