Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

  • adam_y@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Unpopular opinion, but in the west particularly, folk have mistaken writing on the internet for action.

    Tweeting resistance rather than performing it.

    A lapse into inaction framed as radical rest and self care.

    Online they are fierce warriors of justice, offline they go to work in Starbucks, use their apple devices to talk to their families and enjoy the treadmill of streaming services.

    And this isn’t to blame them. This is the point of consumerist capitalism. To trap you in a gilded cage.

    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml
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      10 days ago

      Well observed. People pour a lot of energy into political actions. The question is what that energy gets used on.

  • gon [he]@lemm.ee
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    I saw on Mastodon someone say something kinda like this: good people don’t feel the need to dominate others.

    Evil isn’t “winning” as much as it is “on top.” If you look around, talk to your neighbours and such, you’ll see that good and reasonable people are everywhere; good is the overwhelming majority.

    That being said, positions of power are chased and coveted by those obsessed with power, and those aren’t good people. Good people need to take charge, but it’s — in a way — against their nature to do so.

    • Bilb!@lem.monster
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      9 days ago

      I saw on Mastodon someone say something kinda like this: good people don’t feel the need to dominate others.

      I worry this is just rationalizing ones passivity as just an inherent part of ones assumed “goodness.”

      • gon [he]@lemm.ee
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        8 days ago

        There was more to say than that quote. Still, it does feel that good and bad (“good” and “bad”) people have a different rulebook, and it’s not as simple a fight as who wants things more, but rather who’s willing to do more for them, and evil simply has more tools.

        It’s not that good people don’t try or don’t want to make a difference, but rather that their scrupulous nature doesn’t allow for the means necessary for rule, in the majority of the cases.

        Plenty of good people do succeed in reaching and using power to do good, or at least I do hope and think that that is the case. Higher the stakes, though, or more the power, less likely it is.

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    1. Rampant unchecked capitalism of recent decades has created large wealth disparities akin to the earlier decades of the last century. It is no longer possible for one person in a household with a regular job to support a modest lifestyle for their family. All benefits especially medical for the whole family, being completely intertwined with the current job reduces mobility and further feeds into the wealth gap by keeping wages low. It’s easier to blame the powerless for this state of affairs than the powerful because the powerless cannot object.
    2. The fear of the other has been accentuated by media and misinformation. Targeted algorithms feeding most of the information that is consumed has created echo chambers that reinforce existing beliefs and fears. The propaganda state has never had it easier.
    3. The large military and police has given never before control to the state about what is allowed to be protested. Combined with the day to day struggles, it’s extremely hard to come together for what is right. The ruling class is able to maintain the fine balance between absolute misery and general dissatisfaction that it is still better to struggle through a thankless job than to say fuck it. Failures of recent large uprisings like Middle East and Hong Kong have reinforced the futility of standing up against the rulers.
    4. Evil has many heads and there’s always one head that you can find alignment with. It could be the deregulation of businesses, lower taxes, anti abortion, racism, but as long as there’s one thing you can align on, the general sense of powerlessness makes it easier to overlook the other heads.
    5. The line between evil and good has never been murkier, especially with globalization. If you focus on the betterment of your community, it would be considered good, but what if it leads to suffering of others outside the community. Is it also evil? What is community - is it the people in your neighborhood, your religion, your country, fellow business owners? The fuzzier these lines are, the harder it is to untangle them.
    • DNS@discuss.online
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      10 days ago

      I felt so evil this morning that I drove my car. Fuck you Nature, I’m taking climate back

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    Have you ever cheated at a game, cut corners on work or purposefully did something unfair to get better from it yourself?

    Yeah it’s much easier to win without any pesky ethics or a strong moral compass.

    Good folks have been struggling uphill since the Ancient Greeks as long as there are folks trying to win with a different rule book.

  • Akiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 days ago

    People are scared and angry and want action without thinking about the long-term gains only the short term. Creating fear is fascism 101 and how many rise to power

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    Capitalism is dying because of unchecked greed and people are turning to socialism. The wealthy choose fascism. Until we have class unity. Once we bring out the guillotines, They will retreat to spending the rest of their lives in the bunkers they have built with their stolen wealth.

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      “Once we bring out the guillotines”
      Depends where you live.
      I hear the hardcore revolutionary libs in the US have found a much more powerful way to defeat fascism… buy nothing for 1 day.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        The US has a really serious problem on their hands which is that their trade war won’t achieve anything. The US doesn’t make anything, it famously doesn’t make anything, the only reason that they trade with Canada is because Canada is close. Even then it’s mostly just food stuffs which Canada can make themselves.

        But they have virtually nothing to offer internationally hence the trade deficit, that trump is so upset about, in the first place

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          But they have virtually nothing to offer internationally hence the trade deficit, that trump is so upset about, in the first place

          I don’t think it’s fair to say that America makes nothing. A big part of that trade deficit (certainly with Canada) is down to the relative size of the consumer markets - America has a population of over 330 million people to Canada’s 40 million so of course America will be a net importer of Canadian goods.

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            Doesn’t explain Europe though. European market in the American market are almost identical in terms of population size.

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      9 days ago

      And who you going to put on the guillotines? You own! People are getting so blind with anger

  • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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    Because now it is affecting you personally. Before it was in the middle east or some random aftican nation where people dont speak english, and media make sure it is not in the front page. Reading some history of any conflict will show the root starting a while back but no one cares.

  • YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world
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    My opinion on this generally boils down to that the system has been set up to reward evil/antisocial behavior, and this part of the system is so entrenched and well established and organized that it has not been effectively and completely toppled or eradicated in so long, it has been able to consolidate power and resources to a point where very few extremely evil people are personally in charge of so much of what happens that it seeps into everything. Actually “seeps” is the wrong word, it’s injected into everything. It’s like has been said many times in recent memory, the cruelty is the point.

    For a simplified example, evil executives reward evil behavior by their managers, who in turn punish their employees, who lose control of so much of their lives to these companies and managers that they end up hurting their families and friends out of confusion and anger and other complex emotional reactions, and harm is perpetuated in every area of life.

    It’s self sustaining, and even worse it replicates itself. In some ways I think of these systems as viruses. Also as cults. We all buy in to some degree.

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Class solidarity among the rich. Rich people want willing servants. They want people to fear disobeying them.

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    9 days ago

    I think the issue in America, is that the Constitution only addressed political power, but failed to account for fiscal strength. Money is inherently a thing that manipulates the fates of individuals, companies, and nations alike. By not setting down rules, limitations, and expectations regarding economics, the Founding Fathers allowed a key form of power go unaddressed.

    The vast majority of Project 2025’s major backers are wealthy people, who have far beyond what any normal person can ever hope to possess. This imbalance means that workers have to sacrifice much time, money, and energy to be barely heard on a single issue, while a rich person can just hire experts to massage every aspect of their many messages and to deliver it everywhere with a mighty voice.

    IMO, we will need a Constitution v2.0 that fixes not only assorted political flaws like the voting system, but also prevents wealth from being a microphone that only a few can afford.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It’s not some accident or overlook that a bunch of slavers made a pact to violently enforce their privilege. That was always the point.

      Another constitution sounds good until you realize it’s going to be same kind of people making it. And the state will still be an involuntary system of violent coercion.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      The constitution isn’t some Holy Document that has the power to shape reality. You can write in as many legal clauses as you like, but so long as you’re allowing a small class of oligarchs to control capital, they will use that power to influence policy.

      • Freefall@lemmy.world
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        I don’t have the source, but I am almost certain the constitution, per the founders, was meant to be rewritten every few years…or at least edited.

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    The rebels in Myanmar are winning.

    There’s a new miracle drug for addictions.

    That’s all I can think of.

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    One aspect is that mass media is overall owned by those people and is propaganda. If you don’t have ways of seeing what’s happening on the ground, you miss a lot of the good news. Even your twitter/bs/mastodon feeds won’t give you the full story, you have to (where possible) get involved in a real community organization.

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    I blame the success of neoliberalism (perhaps confusingly, a distinctly conservative project driven by the likes of Reagan and Thatcher). Ever-widening wealth gaps and focus on individual responsibility for solving problems seems to have created an environment where people will jump on just about any bandwagon that tells them they’re inherently better than others. Unfortunately, evil will keep winning as long as there’s enough support (or indifference) for evil to keep winning.