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minus-squarelightnsfw@reddthat.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up18arrow-down2·9 months agoNATO wouldn’t need to expand if Russia wasn’t constantly threatening their neighbors.
minus-squaresurph_ninja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down25·9 months agoThey’ve only ever threatened their neighbors during NATO expansion efforts.
minus-squarelightnsfw@reddthat.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up12arrow-down2·9 months agoRussia was threatening their neighbors before NATO even existed.
minus-squaresurph_ninja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down14·9 months agoNATO existed before Russia, genius. It’s an anti-Soviet org.
minus-squarelightnsfw@reddthat.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down3·9 months agoThe Soviet Union was still Russia. They’ve not changed their attitude since then.
minus-squaresurph_ninja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·9 months agoThen explain this different government, economy, and borders.
minus-squareuienia@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down1·9 months agoYour immense historical knowledge seems to have missed the fact that Russia existed long before the Soviet Union, Einstein.
minus-squaresurph_ninja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down2·9 months agoYou’re proposing that this Russia is the same one? When did they re-establish the czar?
minus-squarezarkanian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up7arrow-down2·9 months ago They’ve only ever threatened their neighbors during NATO expansion efforts. This is abuser logic. “If you would quit misbehaving, then I wouldn’t have to hit you!”
minus-squaresurph_ninja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down3·9 months agoIt’s an adult understanding of international politics. Aggression rarely goes unanswered.
minus-squareuienia@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down1·9 months agoComplete horseshit. They literally invaded and installed a puppet regime in Chechnia, and there were zero NATO “expansion efforts” there. And that is just one example out of many.
NATO wouldn’t need to expand if Russia wasn’t constantly threatening their neighbors.
They’ve only ever threatened their neighbors during NATO expansion efforts.
Russia was threatening their neighbors before NATO even existed.
NATO existed before Russia, genius. It’s an anti-Soviet org.
The Soviet Union was still Russia. They’ve not changed their attitude since then.
Then explain this different government, economy, and borders.
Your immense historical knowledge seems to have missed the fact that Russia existed long before the Soviet Union, Einstein.
You’re proposing that this Russia is the same one? When did they re-establish the czar?
This is abuser logic. “If you would quit misbehaving, then I wouldn’t have to hit you!”
It’s an adult understanding of international politics. Aggression rarely goes unanswered.
Complete horseshit. They literally invaded and installed a puppet regime in Chechnia, and there were zero NATO “expansion efforts” there. And that is just one example out of many.