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    Guys, this comic is a jab at conservatives, and is poking fun at how they’re going to respond to getting screwed by Trump. The comic is positing that conservatives will just blame Democrats (usually their leader specifically), as they’ve done since time immemorial. These exact types of comics have been around since Reagan, they’re all the same comic. The last big one was the “thanks Obama” meme, where Obama is blamed for every stupid little thing.

    This isn’t a comic about leftists blaming Biden. It’s about the bull headedness and obtuse nature of conservatives.

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      Guys, this comic is a jab at conservatives

      Centrists think that conservatives and leftists are the same people.

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    When someone robs your house, you blame the robbers. When the police refuse to do anything about it and you get robbed again by the same person 4 years later, you blame the police.

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      I blame the robbers for robbing my house and the police for not doing their jobs. I don’t blame the police for robbing my house.

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          That’s not how you phrased it, though.

          If that was the point, then simply adding “as well” or “too” at the end makes that clear. Without it, it frames it as if the blame is being shifted instead.

          When someone robs your house, you blame the robbers. When the police refuse to do anything about it and you get robbed again by the same person 4 years later, you blame the police, too.

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              Maybe. Maybe not. Because it’s not explicit, then you’re expecting people to fill in the blank. I’d say there’s more of an argument that most people did not make that assumption.

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    Now we need a version with the guy wearing a “don’t vote” cap and saying “this is all the Dems fault”.

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      The Democrats not once but twice lost to him. Who do you suggest we blame if not the candidates that lost?

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        I blame Republican voter suppression and supporting a candidate that tried and failed at insurrection.

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          The democrats sabotaged the popular candidate not ONCE but TWICE because they were beholden to billionaires and their party leadership clearly was more supportive to the idea of a far right fascist than allowing their party to move even a millimeter to the left. You neo lib boot lickers have your heads so far up the asses of war mongering wall street billionaires you cant even see that the obviously visible puppet strings to both parties lead to the same hands. Its sad, you won’t even stop blaming voters and collaborate to do something about this mess with actual leftists ready to work for change, You are just so delusional you keep sitting there with your thumb up your ass blaming working class people for not supporting a party that has shit on working class people and refused to do anything meaningful anytime they have held power since the fucking 80’s. What a joke.

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            I voted for biden in the primary. I was against him bowing out but till supported it when it was done. I did not vote for him in the first primary but he did a better job in his first term than any other president of my life. Not sure how they sabotaged. voted bernie way back when clinton won but not in 2020. Yang was who I did then.

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              The delusion is even stronger with you. Everything ive said is 100% true not my fault you’re so brainwashed you cant see the forest from the trees. Neoliberal democracy fights any type of economic democracy and is in a fact a class dictatorship as a result. Wake up

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          Can you name one thing you think the Democrats did wrong? I mean people have the right to vote or not vote for whoever they want. That’s kind of the point of a democracy. Isn’t it a failure of the party and/or candidate if they didn’t convince people to vote for them? You can point all day to voters but at the end of the day the party knew all this stuff and still didn’t change their messaging to attract turnout.

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            Its easier for them to blame voters than accept the reality that the whole system is corrupted by money and neo liberal western democracy is broken as is and without economic democracy (which is what democrats spent their efforts thwarting the last 3 election cycles) what it actually is, is a class dictatorship. Democrats sabotaged sanders not once hut twice because they had nothing to lose shooting themselves in the foot and betraying the working class, they preferred a far right fascist since fascism does not threaten capital. So they did whatever possible to prevent an administration thet wojld resemble FDR in any way and give their billionaire donors the win they paid for.

            Now neo liberal right leaning centrists cosplaying as leftists just sit there and toe the party line by blaming people who will not support defense contractor astro turfed corrections industry corporatists of wall street due to blatant ideological failures and contradictions. Voting for a party to ensure that 10% fewer Palestinians will die by American bombs while we ignore the wage stagnation to the point of wage slavery and unaffordable housing crisis but consider it a win because we vote for meaningless virtue signaling sell outs is pure delusion.

            Blaming voters instead of those in power for the systems failures is the same logic of those who blame any Palestinian organization instead of the fascist regime armed to the teeth with billions of dollars in high tech ordinance and surveillance equipment who have been allowed to ignore international law and have a secret illegal nuclear program since the 1970’s. Its dellusional. We have a gross failure of policy and ideology in the democratic party and yall need to wake the fuck up and realize this instead of allowing your comfortable complacency to further empower the leaches controling things behind the scenes and falling victim to their clever PR manipulations.

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              Non-voters and Trump voters chose to end America, end Palestine, and end Ukraine. You chose it. You can namby pamby about “the system” whatever, but take ownership of the fact that the system did you so wrong, you ended it and obliterated two others I’ll bet dollars to donuts you claimed to support in voting (or not) as you did. Take responsibility. The Democrats didn’t make you do it; you did it.

              Honestly for me, I would’ve and did pick America lasting, flawed as it was, and Ukraine and Palestine having a chance. Turns out a country that’s run like a company isn’t the worst thing in the world if it isn’t run purposefully into the ground. Just own your choices and be whatever form of happy the consequences make you.

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                Ukraine is a western vassal state. We are fighting this war and using clever propaganda to convince Americans that democracy is at stake meanwhile we dont have democracy in the usa. We have class dictatorship. America has done the same thing to every country since the 60’s. Impose western imperialist dominance through force regardless of what the citizens of that country want, we poked the bear till the Berlin wall fell then took control of ukraine and looted it for wall street profits. Now we want to hold onto Ukraine at all costs for the sake of resource and trade route control while absorbing ukraine into NATO so we can put strateginc nuclear strike capability even closer to russia. So western aggression / posturing and foreign policy is the cause of this conflict which will become world war 3 regardless of who fired the first shot (wars today are foughy via insurgency, manipulation espionage and economic sanctions so the truth is battlefield violence was not the first shot fired in the ukraine/russia (west/east) conflict.

                America has been dead long before this election. You just believe the propaganda of billionaires who are laughing behind the scenes while they manufacture your consent and rape your wallet There is no left party in the us and this is a result of that.

                And the support of the Ukraine conflict and Palestinian autonomy are ideologies that are diametrically opposed. Neo liberals are on some serious copium.

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              Last November, it wasn’t voting for status quo on either party, it was status quo vs fascism.

              It was known that it was fascism vs status quo and there is no amount of justification that will make it any different.

              People that protest voted or stayed at home directly helped fascism take power.

              If you think that milquetoast status quo with Dems was bad, you’ll shit on the floor the next few years as your country accelerates into fascism. Trump hasn’t even been in power for 6 months and look at all the damage done.

              We can blame both voters and the system, but in the face of fascism, it wasn’t time to make a statement.

              I hope that the world rearrange itself and leave the US to rot because what is happening right now is fucked up and no amount of mental gymnastics and justifications will make a difference.

              The American people chose fascism, plain and simple.

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                You’re incredibly naive if you think fascism just took hold in 2024 and not decades ago. The status quo was fascism too.

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                  Neo liberals have their head so far up their ass they don’t understand that a party that pretends to be the good guys while still enforcing a racially prejudiced war on drugs to bolster a militarized police state and send mostly poor brown people into modern concentration/forced slave labor camps is defacto fascist. The American democratic party in any other developed country is considered a center right party. Leftism (the true antithesis of fascism)in the usa is vehemently suppressed by the party cosplaying as leftists. When the citizens ask for fair wages fair housing fair anything resembling economic democracy they are shit on and told to go fuck themselves by both parties the dems just wave a pride flag and post #BLM while they do it because their expensive PR firm consultants tell them it looks good

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                  I know that, otherwise we wouldn’t be here today. But at the very fucking least, Americans could have refrained from giving the full reign to a fascist party.

                  The voters are as much responsible as the Democrats, but for people like you, that’s fucking hard to grasp that it can be both.

                  Keep doing mental gymnastics so that you can sleep at night because the US, and by proxy, the rest of the world, just got a lot worst a lot faster.

                  It is a weird moment to take a stance against when an openly fascist candidate is the front runner for the US presidency. Riddle me this.

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              How bad at self reflection do you have to be to see yourself cheering on Trump’s victory while thinking that you’re on the right side of anything.

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                Lmao at the strawman and projection.

                Congratulations on what I strongly suspect is your protest non vote! This is what you voted for.

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                  This is what you voted for.

                  Literally isn’t if they didn’t vote for Trump you weirdly gleeful authoritarian cunt

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    Strawman. Leftists don’t claim Biden single-handedly ushered in fascism. Leftists underline how little Biden did to ensure a winning campaign, as well as how little he did to defend against Trump.

    Biden enabled Trump by not stacking courts, not prosecuting trump hard enough, or choosing policy positions based on what would beat trump.

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      I don’t think the victim here is a leftist. Trucker hat, rolled up sleeves; he’s a working class conservative who’s getting hammered by Trumps policies. He is still blaming Biden against all evidence.

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      If incompetency was prosecutable, every single ranking member of Biden’s DOJ would be eligible for indictment.

      From Tulsi Gabbard to Devin Nunes to Jared Kushner to Steven Miller, then number of Trump '16 era crooks who didn’t get prosecuted when Biden had the chance could fill an entire Presidential cabinet.

      Biden enabled Trump by not stacking courts, not prosecuting trump hard enough, or choosing policy positions based on what would beat trump.

      I’m reminded of those 2-pt font “This is what Biden has done, you stupid leftists!” infographics that included dozens of citations of investigations and probes and FBI raids and committees and executive orders and threats to indict which amounted to… nothing! Biden’s DOJ couldn’t even be bothered to pursue a full prosecution. He left that to Alvin Bragg and a New York County Court.

      If Dems wanted a prosecutor who was tough on crime at the top of the ticket, maybe they should have coronated him instead of Harris.

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      This isn’t about leftists. The guy is dressed like a farmer, who majority voted for Trump. Trump turned around and immediately cut subsidies that small business farmers rely on, so many are now struggling. The comic is saying that they will still blame Biden despite being screwed by Trump. This could also be viewed as shorthand for any trump voter.

      In reality, we’ve seen many farmers now communicate that they regret voting for trump. Alittle too little too late, it seems. They aren’t as dumb as the comic artist paints them in that sense, just unempathetic.

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        Honestly, I’d kind of like to read some serious analysis on Trump on agricultural policy. I’ve pointed out that farmers are politically-important in red states, but many of Trump’s policies look pretty bad for farmers to me.

        • Tariffs don’t benefit them – the US is globally competitive agriculturally. The people who want tariffs are in labor-intensive manufacturing. Tariffs just bring up the prices farmers pay, and counter-tariffs hurt them by keeping them from competing in foreign markets. Trump did have some relief funds sent farmers impacted by Chinese tariffs in his first term to mitigate the hit they took, but I’m pretty sure that they’d rather not have their business mucked up.

        • Trump may not actually do as much on illegal immigration as he tries to promote in his image, but he sure doesn’t help, and US agriculture depends heavily on labor from illegal immigrants.

        • Trump going after SNAP, subsidized food for the poor, doesn’t help. My understanding was that for a long time, farmers benefited primarily from federal crop insurance subsidies, but that due to a decline in influence, they basically teamed up with advocates for the poor to get food stamp subsidies in place, and that’s now the primary form of federal farm subsidy.

        When I look at the NFU — the big farming industry association — website, it doesn’t sound very happy with Trump:

        https://nfu.org/2025/03/04/american-farmers-and-ranchers-bear-the-brunt-of-tariffs/

        WASHINGTON – National Farmers Union President Rob Larew commented today on the President’s decision to implement tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China.

        “The tariffs announced today, along with retaliatory measures from China and Canada, will have serious consequences for American agriculture. Our farmers are the backbone of this country, and they need strong, fair trade policies that ensure they can compete on a level playing field—not be caught in the middle of international disputes.

        “We are already facing significant economic uncertainty, and these actions only add to the strain. Trade policies must come with real, tangible protections for the farmers directly affected. We’ve heard there’s a strategy in place—now we need to see it. Promises alone won’t pay the bills or keep farms afloat.

        “Without a clear plan, family farmers will once again be left to bear the burden of decisions beyond their control, and eventually, so will consumers. We urge the administration to work with our trading partners to prevent further harm to rural communities.”

        In the US political system, strongly-red or strongly-blue areas aren’t as politically important, so you don’t really need to worry about pissing them off – they’re gonna tend to vote for or against you regardless. That’s especially true for the President, and true for a lesser degree for legislators.

        But if I’m a legislator for an area, I do care about the industries in my area, and seeing the party that mostly represents rural areas producing a lot of what looks like disadvantageous-to-farmers policy going through kind of surprises me.

        This is one of the big things that I don’t really feel like I have a handle on regarding Trump administration policy.

        EDIT: And I also see websites commenting on Trump policy not being good for farmers, so it’s not just me making some kind of huge error in assessing this.

        EDIT2: One issue for some farmers has been the EPA taking issue with farm runoff – fertilizer causing algae blooms, like in the Great Lakes. If Trump weakens regulation on that, that might be popular with farmers. Farm runoff is a very big political issue in the Netherlands, and I know that that caused enormous political waves in the past few years.

        kagis

        Ah. Okay, apparently yes:

        https://apnews.com/article/2386f9f4af34d81ae32629dead464af3

        Trump rollback could leave waterways vulnerable to pollution

        Since his first weeks in office, President Donald Trump has targeted environmental and public health regulations that he says imposed unnecessary burdens on business. Speaking to farmers in Texas on Sunday, Trump repeated his frequent charge that an Obama-era attempt in 2015 to more clearly define what water bodies qualify for federal pollution protection was “one of the most ridiculous regulations of all.“”

        Thursday’s changes to the clean water rule have long been sought by builders, oil and gas developers, farmers and others.

        So I guess that might be one selling point he has for farmers.

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      Yet people still decided who to vote for & who not to vote against. People still hold responsibility for their vote or failure to vote: they knew who Trump was. They’d seen his shit before.

      Also, why do you think the guy in the trucker hat is a leftist?

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    Man, how much of a wuss would you have to be to get beat up by Donald Trump?

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    Kamar Prediksi In the rapidly developing digital era, login and registration systems have become crucial aspects of the user experience. The faster and safer the login and registration process, the more comfortable users are in accessing digital services. Here are some of the latest technologies that enable the fastest login and registration that are worth trying