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- movies@lemm.ee
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- movies@lemm.ee
James Cameron shared on Friday that the upcoming “Avatar: Fire and Ash,” set to release Dec. 19, 2025, will be even longer than its predecessor “The Way Of Water.”
Does anyone watch these movies?
I know what the sales numbers say, but I have never once ever heard anyone bring up avatar, or the lore, or how it made them feel.
The first one was literally just Pocahontas, but we all went and saw it cause everyone talked about how we were going to.
The first one was definitely a massive cinematic event because of its visuals and the second one was also an event in itself because it was the sequel to the first film. If the third is released any time soon then I might reconsider going to see it. The gap between the first two was sort of what interested me but the second wasn’t as visually impressive for its time as the first. I would be surprised if there were many Avatar “fans”, though. It just doesn’t have anywhere near enough depth to its characters or their world and a lot of its themes about spirituality and indigeneity feel like some borderline cultural appropriation white guilt stuff. The people who are really into that aspect of the films are revealing quite a lot about themselves and their own insecurities, I think.
like some borderline cultural appropriation white guilt stuff.
I feel this is more telling on you tbh. Honestly as an adult I appreciate it and it’s world building. It’s does portray colonialism and does go into many other interesting topics and world values, unfortunately none of those messages hit you, I’m truly not surprised.
It’s not about whether or not they “hit” me - they are just extremely superfluous and lacking in any depth. If you like the film that’s nice, but its take on colonialism is objectively at a primary school level with its one-dimensional bad guys and noble savages.
First one was only successful because of James Cameron’s name and fancy new 3d gimmick
Plus Last of the Mohicans and a smidge of Smurfs.
literally a remake of fern gulley.
That’s the other reference I forgot! Thanks.

And Tim Curry’s devilishly smooth vocals.
And Tim Curry’s devilishly
smooth vocalsabsolutely everything.
It’s almost like we’ve been telling these stories for centuries and nothing ever changes.
Does every director fire their editor once they reach a certain age?
Ridley Scott, Cameron, Scorsese, Coppola… feel like there’s been back to back 3hr + movies in recent years
If they want to lure people into theaters instead of waiting for streaming on a modest home set-up, it’s high time they reintroduce…

Images from Don Hertzfeldt’s The Animation Show.
I think it’s probably a reflection of their age, reputation and personal wealth, as well as how much of the casual cinema audience has died out and shifted to streaming. They can make a 3+ hour epic for film enthusiasts to see in the cinema and then put it on a streaming service where everyone else can watch it in two or three sittings very easily thanks to the playback position being retained on exit.
No God, please no!
Sounds more like a threat
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oh no this one will need 2 loo-breaks
I still can’t believe that movie ended with space a whales swimming montage.
Like who cares? We have real whales that are far more interesting, go film them James
Length of a movie is no longer a flex. Not since LotR special edition dvd cuts







