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misk@sopuli.xyz to Games@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 4 months ago

We need to decide on a genre name for Vampire Survivors-like games before a really terrible one sticks

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We need to decide on a genre name for Vampire Survivors-like games before a really terrible one sticks

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misk@sopuli.xyz to Games@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 4 months ago
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No, Steam, they're not "bullet hell action roguelikes".
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  • towerful@programming.dev
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    It’s an autoshooter isn’t it?
    Vampire Survivors would be a rogue-like autoshooter.

    Like Backpack Battles is an autobattler.

    Edit:
    As raised in the comments, actually a rogue-lite as VS has meta-progression.

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      I’ve also heard Autoshooter. Seems as good of a genre name as any.

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      I don’t know why people keep calling it rogue like. Rogue-likes have a lot more randomness than an easily manipulated item drop system. I don’t know that a random map is a necessity but it certainly needs something along those lines.

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        They call it a rogue-like because there is meta-progression even though you “start over” each run.

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      Yep definitely is. I guess OP hasn’t heard of brotato and deep rock survivor either.

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    Bullet heaven is likely what will stick. If you don’t like that it’s also the name of a game, consider that metroidvania contains the name of two games.

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      Metroidvania is a stupid name and always has been. I say this with those 2 series being 2 of my favourite and metroidvania being one of my favourite genres.

      Bullet heaven isn’t too bad though.

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        I like “search action” instead of Metroidvania. Credit to Tim Rogers.

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    I thought it was already considered a reverse bullet-hell. But I do like Bullet heaven as well.

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    They’re already called reverse bullet hell?

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      I didn’t know that, but it fits. That or bullet heaven.

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        Bullet Heaven is the name of an existing game, don’t clobber it with a genre name.

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          An existing game from newgrounds posted 14 years ago. I don’t think it’s going to cause that much confusion.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      What in the heck is a reverse bullet hell? If a bullet hell is “so many bullets” then I have to image it’s like… Not many bullets at all. That sounds too easy.

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        Normal bullet hell (Touhou): the enemies shoot a hell of bullets at you. And your job is to avoid it. Reverse bullet hell (Vampire Survivors): you shoot a hell of bullets at the enemies. And your job is to shoot even more, bigger, stronger bullets.

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        Just like Vampire Survivors!

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        It should be more in inverse bullet hell: it’s hell, but not for you.

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        I didn’t come up with the name, that’s just what people have been calling it for as long as I can remember.

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    Let’s just stick with survivor, or survivor-like. It works fine for roguelikes and soulslikes. No need to force a genre name.

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      Survival games are already a thing, though.

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        So? SurvivAL is not the same as survivOR.

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          Seems like an insufficient difference for two genres that are so distinct. Plenty of opportunities for confusion.

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            Action, Adventure, and Action-Adventure are all different genres. I think people will figure it out.

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              Those aren’t words that can easily be confused for each other due to accents or minor variance in pronunciation.

              And besides, we already have a genre name for Vampire Survivor-alikes. They’re bullet heavens.

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                No we don’t, never heard anyone use that term when referring to games that are similar to Vampire Survivors. It’s always survivor-like game. Also, bullet heaven is not even an accurate description of the game, as in lots of these games you don’t throw lots of projectiles around. If you’re going to force a name change, Mob Hell is a way better descriptor.

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                  Mob Hell is a way better descriptor

                  Oh, I like this one

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    Sucky N Fucky

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      Based

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    Digital crack

    Dragon chaser

    Freebase gaming

    Addiction “simulator”

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    Swarm shooter, reverse bullet hell, or enemy hell

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      Yea it’s always been reverse bullet hell.

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        Which is why it’s always been bullet heaven

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    passive swarm shooter

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    I always thought of it as a Hord game

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    Twi-like

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    Pew Pew Woosh.
    Epilepsy-vania
    GPU Fryer.
    S3: Survive and Shoot the Swarm.

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    Walking Death Simulator

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    Survive-em-up?

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      This one makes so much sense I’m surprised it’s the first time I hear it.

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    I’ve always heard Arena Survival

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