Btw, is that a tablet dock i see?
Too bad, i liked the way it was going… in my experience 80% of the buttons are unnecessary, provided of course that the automation is well thought out .
That 20% though…you want that to be physical.
Aw, just when they were about to get rid of the steering wheel, shame.
Not sure how they were able to remove so many buttons in the first place and not be marked down on safety. Suddenly trying to find a demister on a touchscreen menu while in motion was never a great idea. Surprisingly, Volvo off all companies have been one of the worst for this. That’s why I like Dacias, little tech = little to go wrong.
And Volvo went from this:
To this:
Which is quite the change…
OTOH now we will get to enjoy dashcam videos of car rollovers where the driver is like, Where’s that playlist… OH GOD OH SHIT !!!
Now, take out the bullshit that’s tracking you and sending the information back to them to sell, and we’ll be doing something great
Good
I literally did not buy/straightout refused to buy new Golf because of this crap. It does not get simpler than that: other producer got my money, VW group did not. Period.
Volkswagen should be forbidden to produce anything. There were even touch-SLIDE commands on the steering wheel. God only knows how many lives were lost in accidents, because someone ‘‘touched’’ something and switched something off or on. Horrible.
Thank you!
I don’t care what the reasoning is behind the decision (customer feedback vs. changes to safety ratings), I’m just glad it’s happening and I hope all manufacturers follow suit.
This has been my gripe with new cars ever since I found myself needing one in 2022. Everything I looked at had a huge infotainment system front-ending climate and cabin controls. Want to turn your steering wheel heat off mid drive? Ha! Tap this specific spot on this screen 3 times and hope the car doesn’t bounce while you’re doing so or you’ll accidentally turn something else on. Want to use voice controls? Joke’s on you, they only work 50% of the time.
God forbid something happens to the control board (which costs thousands of dollars to replace if you’re outside warranty), because then you’re completely hosed.
You know what always worked without fail? The buttons in my 2005 Corolla.
Thank you! Now bring back physical keys too!
The very definition of the solution looking for a problem that one.
Oh look I don’t have to put the keys in the ignition that saved me a whole tenth of a second. Of course now it’s possible to lose my keys in my own car.
I’ve never had this problem because I’m too poor to afford a car new enough to not have any buttons lmao
revolutionary
Unbelievable levels of ingenuity.
Hopefully they can hit some middleground so we don’t end up back in the crazy button-hell that cars used to be. Having a billion buttons is equally as bad as having none.
Not out of the goodness of their own hearts mind. It’s probably more because Euro NCAP are going to be deducting score for not having physical essentials in 2026.
That’s why I love brands like Hyundai. Never got rid of the knobs.
I have now a tucson and I can tell you with all the stupid an superfluous buttons everywhere that I need te press each time I start the car it is definitely not adding tot the security on the road.
So, you’re saying that a touchscreen where you have actively look at because you don’t have any haptic feedback is saver on the roads?
I can give many examples about the stupidity of physical buttons in the Hyundai but limit myself to one example the ‘auto hold’ button… each time when I start the car I need to press it because a toggle on the display ‘default on/off’ doesn’t give me the haptic feedback. That I almost hit someone because the car starts to ‘crawl’ at high speed is of less importance. This is just one of the 70+ buttons in a Hyundai Tucson. Because there are so many I need to take my eyes off the road to verify that I press the correct one.
Hm, never had that problem with the Kona. When I start the car it’s automatically active until I hit the gas pedal and in any other case, recuperation is your friend. Recuperation to max and you don’t even have to break anymore.
If you can achieve the same thing with one single tap instead of going through what the OP has to, then yes.
And depending on how many buttons there are, chances are you have to look at the buttons too.
Are you guys playing the pain while driving? The only but I actually used is the hazard light button. The rest are all around the steering wheel.
There you go, you admit that apart from the hazard light button the rest is unnecessary
Nah, heating, air conditioning, seat venting. I use all of that. But most of the time not. It I like having buttons. I mean, it’s easier if I have to switch menus all the time. You and me both know that touchscreen only is stupid. It sounds nice on paper but then you need to turn on your windshield wipers and chaos unfolds. You love Tesler and that’s okay but boy… why the fuck are we arguing about this. It’s not like we gonna change each other’s opinions and buying a new car. You like touchscreens and I like buttons. Let’s agree on that.
Most VW cars have plenty of buttons and levers on the steering wheel. It’s really not that bad. Except for the fuckup with the touch/swipe buttons on the steering wheel in some cars, lol. I personally like a good mixture of well placed and functional buttons and a touchscreen. The former for primary and secondary features that are frequently used while driving, and the latter for scrolling through settings/playlists and navigation.
What is Tesler? Well whatever it is, at least your insinuation is rather off, why would I have a Hyundai now 🙄
I have a Hyundai ioniq 5 and it definitely has touch buttons for some of the things, like climate control.
We got the new Kona and besides the touchscreen we have all the buttons.
Honda as well.
Subaru went all in on the touch screen and it suuuuucked.
My uncle’s outback looks like a video slot machine, and everything had to be done through the touchscreen. But to add insult to injury, the Subaru touchscreens are super slow and unresponsive, so they feel like they aren’t working.
Yup, that was my experience with the in laws Ascent.
I got in right before Subaru went that way and ended up with the best of both worlds: a touchscreen for CarPlay and knobs for…everything else. I still have knobs for the radio if need be.
Plus it’s a six speed manual (Crosstrek).
I get a flyer from the dealership every other week asking if I want to “upgrade.” Sorry, fellas, nothing you have is an upgrade to me. You can’t get a manual gearbox here any more.
You can’t get a manual gearbox here any more.
Another factor contributing to the discontinuation of manual transmissions is the increasing emphasis on safety features and the integration of advanced driver-assist technologies.
Ew.
It’s frustrating because “the consumer” doesn’t want manuals, yet car makers add all these things that keep people from paying attention to the road making it - in my opinion - too easy to get distracted. I like that I can’t hold my phone in my hand and drive because I need to shift.
Last summer I was in Ireland, and I was peeking in a few cars on parked on the side of the road just out of curiosity. Almost every one was a manual, it seemed like. It’s not that we COULDN’T have fun, manual cars here. But Americans are lazy.
Yep. And mazda has physical climate button/knobs, with a physical dial to control the infotainment (it’s pretty convenient, if a bit of an older design on most of their vehicles).
Same as BMW iDrive. I’m sure some are touch screen, but you don’t have to use it.
Thats the reason they dont have me roped into payments right now
Even without the new EU regulations on this, I bet VW was already planning on doing this. The widespread backlash to the non-illuminated capacitive touch controls on the newest Golf GTIs/Rs was significant. I wouldn’t have bought one of those, and a Golf R is basically my dream car.
I’ve been passing on a Golf R for the past 3 years for this exact reason.
I dunno. Cadillac has been doing this for decades and show no sign of stopping. I had them in my Chevy Volt and they were infuriating.
