• El_Azulito@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    That’s the spirit. …Cause fuck Nazis. Germany gets it. They’re like, “Trust us, ve know how dis turns üt.”

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    18 hours ago

    Imagine you buy a car and it gets burned down because the owner of the car company turns out to be a Nazi.

    I would like Tesla to go bankrupt too but cheering on regular peoples property being destroyed is wrong.

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      11 hours ago

      Hopefully they had bubble insurance and now they’re freed of their magamobile and can buy something better.

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        the magamobile… i know it has its issues, but the sad thing is, if you want an electric car as a person who does not care about car-people-things, the magamobile is one of the best options in terms of efficiency. ALSO in terms of used vehicles, you can get teslas so bloody cheap rn and for people who just want to get from A to B with Comfort and ease, you dont have so many other options.

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          I hadn’t even considered that this is causing the used market to drop out. We could be urging people who otherwise couldn’t or wouldn’t to adopt EVs. Could turn the negative into a positive.

          Nope the “activists” say, burn em all.

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        8 hours ago

        Yeah because insurance companies are run by great people who are known for helping others.

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          4 hours ago

          This is Europe, not USA. We are not getting fucked by insurance companies on a daily basis - only weekly basis.

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      17 hours ago

      So many people on social media cheering for vandalizing other people’s private property just because they disagree with the politics of the maker of their cars. Wild.

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      17 hours ago

      Read this thread man. People have become fucking deranged, cheering on destroying the property of people who likely had no reason to believe they’d be making car payments to a Nazi.

      Frankly if you’re not out canvassing for politicians you support or helping organize a union or something but you can find the time to cheer on the destruction of what is likely a worker’s property, you need to get a grip.

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        17 hours ago

        If you own a Telsa, sell it. It sucks but Muskrat is actually dismantling decades of institutional organization. He’s an threat to our country and when it collapses he’ll just fly to the next country while we burn.

        Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.

        He’s got the president of the u.s. on the front lawn hucking his cars, it’s hilarious and sad.

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          I don’t own one, but when I was considering which EV to buy they were on the list. I could have easily been just another Tesla owner, now getting their car burnt to a crisp or getting spray painted with Nazi symbols.

          I am a unpaid union executive. I volunteer my time to groups like a Right-to-Repair advocacy organization. If the shitheads burning cars could get this motivated about these or other issues, we’d be knocking problems over like dominoes. Instead “activism” for a lot of people now means complaining on the internet and destroying the property of workers.

          Frankly people need to take that type of activism and fuck right off with it. Do some real work or go home and let the adults figure it out.

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            I do all kinds of work organizing IRL thanks. Do you think the people that set the cars on fire were just online or something? Shitposting is useless, the real ones are taking it offline.

            A bit of advice to an alleged Union man? Get some solidarity and stop supporting fascists scab. Support Unions by buying union-made cars, not ones made by a Union busting fascists.

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                I advised the person claiming to be in a union to do their part and support unions, not union busters.

                I advise solidarity with non-fascists by not supporting anything that puts money into a fascists pocket.

                Personally I think targeting showrooms would be more effective but I’m 100% confident Evil Insurance Companies will make things right for the downtrodden Tesla owners and they can buy a new car. Judging by most people’s reactions, at least a few won’t buy a Tesla.

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              You could petition for adoption of an EV plug that isn’t Tesla’s. You could ask to have the Tesla supercharger network be declared anti-competitive and force Musk to divest. Bonus points if you can convince people it should be a public good.

              Lots of moves could be made. Instead you advocate for bashing the fash by… Burning cars owned by workers? And somehow you fail to see how this is not just morally and logically wrong, it also harms the view of leftists in the eyes of the public?

              Are you a real person or do you glow?

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                The time for petitions and lobbying have passed. Our regulatory agencies have been captured and our politicians bought.

                In the future it’ll only get more and more dangerous to associate with Teslas at all. Anyone who values their personal safety should unload it now.

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                  I will be reporting anyone I catch destroying otherwise innocent people’s property to the authorities. I will not be associated with you fucking animals.

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          11 hours ago

          If you own a Telsa, sell it.

          Realistically, this makes no difference. Tesla has already got the money from the seller. The only person losing is the seller who now sells the car at lower price than they bought it for and have to put in more money to buy a replacement vehicle.

          Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.

          The only ones who will buy Teslas now are conservatives and they will buy new ‘just to show support for Musk’.

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      Sure, I have some sympathy for those who bought them years ago.

      But let’s not mince words. If you buy a Tesla today, you are literally a Nazi collaborator.

      Those who bought a Tesla much earlier were more like one of those few people who bought one of Hitler’s paintings during his starving artist phase.

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    18 hours ago

    Funny house suddenly Teslas have become more valuable as an insurance payout then they are as a car.

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    19 hours ago

    This is not the solution.

    Those could’ve been sold and the money used to help poor people.

    Really puts into perspective how smart you people are for cheering for this. Bunch of knuckle-dragging neanderthals.

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        13 hours ago

        Because your herd mentality causes you to assume the crowd is correct no matter what.

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        13 hours ago

        Instead of burning the cars without the owners’ permission, take them and sell them.

        Use the money to help those in need.

        Too many “smart people” in this comment chain assume that I mean asking the owners nicely to sell them. Did we ask the owners nicely to set the cars on fire?

        Really puts into perspective how smart ya’ll are.

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          WHO IS GOING TO SELL THEM THEN?

          From what you keep repeating over and over in this thread, it seeks like you think the German state should seize Tesla’s assets and sell them off.

          That is an absolutely ridiculously unrealistic idea. But hey, let’s say you start campaigning for it TODAY. You start convincing all the “low average intelligence” people in order to get a sufficient portion of the population on board to sway politicians to seize Tesla.

          (Note that this is not 50%; for example, legalizing abortions has had far wider support in the German population for a long time, yet it’s not happened so far.)

          So let’s be really, REALLY optimistic and say, in 10 years you will be able to get a government voted in which enacts the seizure of Tesla assets, agaojat all corporate-backed influences and interests. And somehow change the Grundgesetz so Tesla can not spend years moving up the courts to prevent this.

          Do you see how this does nothing TODAY? I’m all for the systemic change; go vote and campaign in that direction, but here, in this comment section you are not offering a realistic or timely solution. Should nothing he done until your “perfect” solution becomes workable?

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        15 hours ago

        I do not condone violence but if you must act violently, at least target the dealership, not random people’s private property.

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      If the car owners sold the car, they’d have cash but no car. And apparently they need a car, else why have it in the first place. So no, the money was never going to feed the poor.

      Now the owners will get compensated by their insurance and can make a smarter choice for the replacement vehicle. Tesla owners get a message, and they only one hurt is the insurer.

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        17 hours ago

        My god, every single one of you are repeating the same thing.

        It’s insane how low average intelligence has gotten, but here we are.

        This is why the disparity in wealth is what it is.

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          11 hours ago

          Lol, thanks for identifying yourself. I always like to get a head start and block deluded people before they get too annoying.

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      18 hours ago

      So did you already sold all your possessions to help the poor? That question is just as absurd as your comment.

      There is no “solution” here, vehicles are not meant to be “solutions” by using their diminishing value to get money to help the poor. If they were, you would be saying this to EVERYONE that owns one, not even public transportation should be safe from your rhetoric.

      This is the exact same mindset that makes fElon think that he can just give money to the UN and magically world hunger would be gone. No, simply no.

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        17 hours ago

        No… but if going to burn these vehicles why not reclaim and sell them instead?

        All of you “smart” people are making the same argument that the owners of these vehicles would have to choose to sell them. Did they choose to have them set on fire? No. So we can sell the vehicles instead of setting them on fire and use the money to help those in need.

        Wow. It’s so sad this needs to be spelled out of you people, but it’s to be expected at this point.

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          There is no legal mechanism in place to “reclaim” these vehicles and force the owner to sell and redistribute to the poor, but I think you’d find widespread support here for something like that.

          So instead they get torched, to send a message. I suspect it’ll get worse in the near future and I wouldn’t recommend buying one today to anyone who values their personal safety.

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              Right, arson is generally illegal but when we start talking about “crimes” we can also bring up “morality” and “ethics” and it becomes a much more productive discussion.

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                You people are so far gone it’s sad.

                Really puts things into perspective how smart the average individual is these days.

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                  The United States is so far gone it’s sad.

                  I agree public education is abysmal.

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      What are you talking about? Those could’ve been sold and the money used to help poor people.

      Now it’s just a waste.

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        You really think the owners are going to sell their tesla to give to the poor? Elon sure isn’t and only celebrities and those in similar situations where money doesn’t matter would do it. That you make this as a serious argument is wild.

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        Yeah I’m sure these people really would have willingly sold their Teslas and then gone on to donate that money to poor people.

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          Who said anything about willingly?

          Did they willingly have these teslas burned?

          Sad this needs to be spelled out for you.

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          Yeah, no.

          All of you people said the same flawed argument and it’s sad that you thought you had a point.

          Really puts things into perspective why things are the way they are.

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              I’ve already explained to you people what you don’t understand, several times.

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                  Lol. Anyone with half a brain can recognize my argument.

                  You people just succumb to your herd mentality because you’re afraid to do your own thinking.

                  I don’t expect more, to do so would be foolish.

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                Yes, no one is smart as you, everyone doesn’t “get it”. You should run for president of the USA, he’s almost as smart as you.

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      People who bought Teslas years ago are like people who bought Hitler’s paintings during his “starving artist” phase.

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        He was never really a balanced people but I didn’t understand why people were already disgusted by his behaviours before his latest shows.

        Then I discovered he was the classic old style entrepreneur against unions.

        Now I came to know he only had male sons (in vitro selected sex), 14 males.

        The problem is not him, it’s that system which is completely insane (tbn I’m ok with abortion). The altered genomes of twin baby girls that happened in China is almost ok from an ethical pov if compared, it had a medical target at least.

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      They should have one to cover up the Tesla logo saying Evil Nazi Scumbag made this

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    Were they really set on fire, or did their batteries just explode? This could very well be another case of the new and improved Pinto spontaneously going off.