• hansolo@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    I consider myself Centrist because I would rather eat 10 pounds of fried bugs than align myself with either absolute clown show of a party.

    I’m a free agent, and the haters can’t stand that they can’t have me.

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      This only makes sense if you insist on reducing complex multidimensional concepts to a single scalar value. Even intuitively it doesn’t make sense. You place yourself in the centre between two philosophies you disagree with? What?

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        It actually makes more sense when you don’t reduce it. Look up a Nolan Chart, or quadrant-based political stance diagram. I fall squarely into the center of the Nolan Chart.

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            Lol, a lot of political scientists disagree with you, too. I bet they’re all stupid, right?

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      Why do you think voting for a party aligns yourself with that party?

      If two people want to attempt to unalive your mother with a 50% probability that they will succeed, and you have the chance to stop only one of them, reducing the chance to 25%. Does it mean that you align with whoever you do not choose?

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        Voting WITH a party is not the same thing as voting for a candidate that has openly identified as a member one party or the other because that is a barrier to entry or funding avenue for them.

        I know it’s hard to accept, but the entire history of both parties hasn’t been “socialist utopia vs. Nazis.” For a century the Democrats didn’t eject all the Southern racists that declared they were Dems simply to be a counterpoint to Lincoln-to-MLK-era Republicans.

        Even a cursory understanding of history should make anyone distrust all political parties forever.

        But please tell me more about how the party that denied us a president Bernie Sanders (I) is worth my time.

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          Why not vote for Bernie then? Better than nothing. At least it may give a lot of people or the democrats faith that he could potentially win in the future.

          I’m not saying that you need to give them your time, I’m just saying that voting for them doesn’t mean that you stand for what they believe. You can vote them and at the same time advocate for a different voting system.

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          But please tell me more about how the party that denied us a president Bernie Sanders (I) is worth my time.

          Like Bernie has said, it is the only realistic vehicle to carry someone like him into the White House. The way the US political system is structured your movement needs to take over an existing party instead of trying to establish its own new party from the ground up if it wants any hope of success.

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            Yes, that’s what “barrier to entry” meant in my comment. Happepend to Bernie, happened to a family member of mine at the county level.

            Parties prevent YOU from being ABLE to vote for qualified candidates. That’s all they are for, to give unqualified rich or charismatic people a chance to sell the party to you. Nothing else.