cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29626776
[“fierce opposition”? Don’t bet on it.]
By TIA GOLDENBERG and SAM MEDNICK
Updated 5:25 AM EDT, May 5, 2025TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel approved plans on Monday to capture the entire Gaza Strip and remain in the territory for an unspecified amount of time, two Israeli officials said, in a move that if implemented would vastly expand Israel’s operations in the Palestinian territory and likely bring fierce international opposition.
Israeli Cabinet ministers approved the plan in an early morning vote, hours after the Israeli military chief said the army was calling up tens of thousands of reserve soldiers.
New plan? What was the old one, a fucking field trip?
As if that wasn’t the goal all along. The UN finally got around to calling it genocide, and still nobody’s actually lifting a finger to stop it - so why sugar-coat their intentions any longer.
This was the plan the whole time; genocide and conquest.
Remember when everyone was like, “What??? They would never do that!”
Sure don’t.
I do remember thinking that any of my fellow Americans who refused to vote for Kamala because she wasn’t anti-Israel enough for them were super fucking stupid because electing Trump obviously OBVIOUSLY O B V I O U S L Y would lead to this exact outcome.
That’s what I remember.
Yeah Trump is worse, but you can’t blame someone for refusing to vote for a candidate supporting genocide
This was obviously the outcome no matter who was elected. Israel has always been very clear about this.
Israeli officials were waiting for Trump to get elected so they could act with a free hand. This is untrue.
There’ll be people denying that’s the plan while the death camps are open. Just like Nazis kept denying the Holocaust the whole time, and even after the fact.
They must deny that their targets even exist, to further depersonalization, so they don’t even have the dignity of being acknowledged as an oppressed minority. “We didn’t do it, because they don’t exist; and if they did, we would be in our rights to enact our final solution for them.”
After all, how could they be held responsible for committing atrocities against a group who doesn’t exist?
Damn, so full annexation of the Gaza strip. Someone should tell them that that’s against the UN charter. They might get a strongly worded email if they’re not careful. Shit, they might even lose their membership!
Lebensraum
…again.
So, that’s what it’s like to live through a state sponsored genocide. Apocalyptic for the victims, banal for the rest.
Most times of state-created suffering do not feel abnormal to most people.
Milton Mayer interviewed a bunch of German civilians after World War 2, and most of them remembered the concentration camp years as good times and had a positive view of Hitler. Only the professor among them really even had much awareness that anything important had been happening during that time; most of the others were just concerned with issues of family, their work life, their economic situation, and so on.
“New plan” like this wasn’t always the end goal
well I held my vote for the Democrats, i don’t know what else you want me to do.
/s
Good thing the dems made it easy by putting the interests of a foreign genocidal apartheid state before their voters. With a bit of luck, we might be able to successfully blame everyone but them, and they might be confident enough to repeat the same strategy and lose the next election as well.
Good thing the dems made it easy by putting the interests of a foreign genocidal apartheid state before their voters. […] repeat the same strategy and lose the next election as well.
Republicans are literally laying the ground work to turn the USA into a fascist dictatorship that is in lock step with Russia and Israel, but alright cool. Good thing we have more concern for a foreign conflict then the survival of our own democracy.
I have never come across anyone supporting Trump on lemmy. I voted for Kamala but we are in a post election environment. The election is OVER and they betrayed us.
Demanding the dems stop supporting genocide on the grounds that it’s the right thing to do and it clearly alienated their voters is not supporting Trump.
Holding the dems accountable for the shit show they orchestrated at the behest of israel is not supporting Trump.
Demanding they start to actually represent us and demanding internal changes in the party is not supporting Trump.
Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?
Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?
Dems don’t support genocide. Claiming otherwise is outright misinformation FUD targeting Democratic voters to drive support for RUpublicans.
As your links show, the dems created a massive vulnerability by supporting genocide. It doesnt say anything about them not supporting it.
The dems have to change their stance. Russia using their support for genocide against them doesnt mean we should support genocide. They kind of solve both problems by publicly condemning Israel and its what voters want as well.
Huh, that’s really odd conclusion to draw from Democrats literally supporting genocide. Harris couldn’t even be bothered to come out against it during the campaign even when they knew their support was a losing issue.
Again, more Fascist supporting apologia.
The DNC does not support genocide, Trump supports the genocide of Palestine. How dense do you have to be to not see that you are supporting the genocide of Palestine?
There are multiple meanings of “support.” There’s an endorsement meaning, which can be explicit or tacit, and there’s an aiding meaning. The Democrats may not explicitly endorse it, but the Biden administration certainly did tacitly endorse it by directly aiding it. And most of the party has been tacitly endorsing and aiding it for decades.
Dems don’t support genocide.
Then whose administration kept selling weapons for genocide from 2023 through 2024?
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/26/nx-s1-5309695/trump-gaza-video
That’s the man you supported.
Sure. All opposition to your genocide must be support for trump.
You will never admit that netanyahu was wrong prior to 2025.
Good thing we have more concern for a foreign conflict then the survival of our own democracy.
Might be a good thing for you that democrats had more concern for netanyahu’s every whim than protecting democracy.
It’s genocide. Just say it.
