• hihi24522@lemm.ee
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    Fuck the square cube law. If there is any magic that can freeze things / make things cold, the second law of thermodynamics is void, and by extension the other two are as well.

    Perpetual motion machines? Hell yeah. Infinite energy? Hell yeah. Being able to create negative energy by decreasing entropy thus being able to create antigravity and simulate negative mass? Hell yeah

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      So if you can enchant a mana stone to hold a spell to maintain the cold then another stone to gather ambient mana to keep it going you can have infinate spell generation and then you’ve got your foundation all set.

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      The magic probably takes the energy from somewhere else

      Mana/chi/whatever

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        That still is a violation of entropy because you’ve increased the “order” of energy in the universe as a whole, which is not possible.

        If you can violate entropy, one can create a more than perfect Carnot Engine (or in general just a heat engine with efficiency greater than 1) which would allow you to generate an infinite amount of energy in the form of mechanical motion.

        Unless in creating/gaining “mana” one is accelerating the entropic decay of the universe as a whole equal to or greater than the amount of entropy reversed locally (eg spells must produce heat and be inefficient at converting mana energy into work), magic would violate thermodynamics and allow for infinite energy creation.

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          I’m sure it would be quite rare to fight in a clean-room where such a tactic would be necessary, but not to worry… even in conditions free from dirt and dust, you can still get several hits in by converting your ordinary EDC PocketSand™ into earth-shot.

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            If we’re talking fullmetal alchemist rules, it’s pretty clear that transmutation doesn’t change the atomic make-up of a thing. Just the chemical bonds and intermolecular forces, combined with moving the bits around following a formula. However, you could turn fat into a hydrogen-propelled diamond bullet.

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        The whole issue with that is not only about weight, that hardly scratches the surface. Heat transfer, friction, radiation, mass transfer, etc. all get limited by this in some way and are FAR more consequential than weight alone.

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        Though that wouldn’t help for many biological organisms, such as arthropods, where it’s about Surface Area vs. Volume in diffusion. The oxygen diffusion rate gets too low without higher O2 concentrations

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        I’ve read one where the guy basically had Minecraft powers and so he built a wall and then destroyed the supporting blocks and the wall stayed floating in air.

        It had the potential to be pretty interesting, but it quickly turned into a monster girl harem manga.

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that in and of itself, but I gave up on it when the lead heroine used sleep magic so that the average japanese man MC could be raped by a bunch of harpies.

        There was also a disturbing amount of butt stuff forced on the MC. Kinda weird all in all.

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      I think essentially everything affected would weigh less so you could build bigger stuff using less power to move and less support to hold stuff in place though if you wanted to make mechs I wonder if impacts would still have the same affect as it everything weighed more

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        I understand now that TO exclusively was thinking about weight, while that is only one of many things that are limited by the surface to volume scaling.

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    Reminds me of the grimnior series where they have “heavies” that affect gravity and with the help of that same magic in the form of glyphs they make a giant mech suit called the nishimura super gakutensoku