I reported this comment but the admin didn’t remove it. Seem like obvious racism to me

  • blackbrook@mander.xyz
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    2 hours ago

    Hear hear! Shaming Americans for their preference for unhealthy food is pretty racist.

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    Lol. I did two tours over there. The people loved us. They loved the government. They loved the schools for women. The problem is culturally, they didn’t see a need to fight for it because of apathy. They figured “ISAF was always going to be here, so why need to fight for ourselves? And is ISAF isn’t here anymore, then we can’t support our selves, so why try?” As far as the schools go, they are voluntary. There are no truancy laws. They don’t even take attendance at most of the schools. It was completely up to the family if they wanted to send their boys OR their girls. Under pre-ISAF taliban the literacy rate was about 15% and at the time of withdrawal it was almost 40%. The people wanted to go to school, the taliban just didn’t let most of them or the schools that they did keep open were so severely limited in what they could teach.

    The biggest red flag of this post, to me, is the use of the word Afghani. Any time someone says it with an ‘i’ at the end, you know they don’t know what they are talking about. Afghani is a currency, Afghan is a person.

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      The problem is culturally, they didn’t see a need to fight for it because of apathy.

      Thank god we don’t have to worry about that happening he- err… fuck.

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    Wtf is this “it isn’t part of their culture !!!1!1!1!”. It wasn’t part of western culture either until ~150 years ago xD, it doesn’t mean that it’s good.

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    In America at least slaves often raised their own masters. It was an entire category of enslaved people: house slaves.

    Much like the European aristocrasy and upper crust left their children to governesses and wet nurses to rub elbows with the rest of high society, so did the Big Whites of America and the Carribean.

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    Leaving out the goatfuckers but from the main post feels like burying the lead lmao. Thats cartoonishly racist.

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    If you make sweeping generalizations about an entire ethnic group, you might be a racist.

    This smacks of racism justified by sham “facts.” The poster is ignorantly confident that their feelings on the subject are fact.

    You know how we know this is not true? When the Taliban was suppressed they had schools for girls and nobody forced people at gunpoint to go to them. What did happen was people being forced at gunpoint to close them when the Taliban was given free reign again.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      If you make sweeping generalizations about an entire ethnic group, you might be a racist.

      Broadly speaking, sure. I think the “Afghanis didn’t want Americans holding their nation at gunpoint for two decades” is empirically well-proven, though.

      The rest of the shit is just ahistorical nonsense. The primary appeal of the Taliban is rooted in their opposition to the secular warlords and opium cartel bosses who were backed by the US in place of civilian government. Just like in Iran, after the takeover by the Shah, urban liberals were either ingested into the American murder machine or exterminated as disloyal opposition. What opposition was left fell to rural religious conservatives who spent the next generation resisting the occupation.

      When the Taliban was suppressed they had schools for girls and nobody forced people at gunpoint to go to them.

      When the Taliban was suppressed, a few major cities had schools for the families of occupying soldiers and civilian bureaucrats. And some of the Afghanis were permitted to attend, as an incentive to remain compliant. The women and girls in the rural backwaters weren’t invited to these schools. The young boys weren’t invited either. The country was plundered, the bulk of the population subjugated, and individuals who resisted were arrested, tortured, and executed.

      The idea that Kandahar was transformed into Boston under US occupation is absolutely farcical. Poverty was endemic during most of the US occupation, percipitating multiple famines during the '00s and '10s. 36% of the country experienced extreme poverty under US occupation. One in five children died under the age of five years old.

      How Taliban insurgents initially managed to win support in those early years was by rebuilding the domestic supply lines that the '02 invasion had flattened. Only after they’d revitalized the western provinces could they shepherd the manpower to repeal western forces. And, in the end, it was those who could supply the bread that made the rules.

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    6 hours ago

    It does seem like the kind of logical fallacies that racists adhere to, so it wouldn’t be surprising if the author is racist. However, there’s really not enough context here to say.

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      Here more of what he say

      Kabul was always a lot more progressive because it’s a big city. The rest of the country is a bunch of goatfuckers in the mountains.

      In the 1970s, when the communist revolution took place, the people of Afghanistan became increasingly restless due to all the reforms. They literally did not want progress. Then in the 2000s, the Americans tried to pick up where the soviets had left off… And as soon as they were gone, the Taliban was back. There was little resistance.

      He even justified occupation citing that the occupiers was there to free the people from uncivilization like how the west justified occupation by calling other savages

      Here the post where the comments come from

      https://lemmings.world/post/28513579

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    Maybe the Afghanis didn’t want to be a vassal state to the country that was invading them for 20 fucking years.

    Crazy they don’t yearn for the boot.

    God I hate these psuedo intellectual racist cunts.

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      Maybe the Afghanis didn’t want to be a vassal state to the country that was invading them for 20 fucking years.

      Luckily, as every good campist knows, the holsum Taliban, definitely not an imperialist catspaw of Pakistan which has been invading them for 30 fucking years, is widely beloved by comparison.

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    6 hours ago

    I feel like it could be. It could also just be a remark that the people who live their preferred religious rule. Without more context it just seems like poorly worded critique.

  • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
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    I mean, it’s a bad comment, and plays on stereotypes, but not racial stereotypes. Downvotes are deserved (for both inaccuracy and stereotyping) but depending on community rules it might be within bounds.

    • rumimevlevi@lemmings.worldOP
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      He said their culture is like that as if the culture started by Taliban. This sound like racial stereotypes to me

      Here other part of his comment

      Kabul was always a lot more progressive because it’s a big city. The rest of the country is a bunch of goatfuckers in the mountains.

      In the 1970s, when the communist revolution took place, the people of Afghanistan became increasingly restless due to all the reforms. They literally did not want progress. Then in the 2000s, the Americans tried to pick up where the soviets had left off… And as soon as they were gone, the Taliban was back. There was little resistance.

      This is the same logic France and British justified their genocide of indigenous tribes. They was calling them savages and claimed to want to civilize them.

      It’s so easy for someone in a democracy to say their is no resistance to Taliban because they agree with their ideology especially a country that had a civil war and was occupied twice

  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I mean, the Progressive Politics comm is run by campists who will accept any argument as long as it can loop back around to some form of critique of The West™. In that same thread is a commenter saying that violence is the only language those damn woman-educators understand.

    Not sure why you expect them to remove this critique of the Western-backed Afghan government, regardless that it’s built on a racist premise. It’s against Bad Camp, after all!

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    I think it’s a not racist theory, with borderline supporting details.

    If a new regime doesn’t match the existing culture, they will get resistance from the people.

    Which could have been the case in Afghanistan, but I personally don’t know. Another commented that their examples are not true, and even if that is the case, there could still be other examples of a culture clash that WERE happening that would cause the same result, but again, I don’t know any more than what I hear from others.