• key@lemmy.keychat.orgEnglish
    6·
    10 months ago

    Makes me kinda wish that when defederating you could select a one word label for why. Like a fixed list with several options like pedo, spam, harassment, abandoned, etc and a default of other. Make it a bit easier with a big list like this to say, oh 1000 of these 1400 all selected “racism” when defederating so it’s probably very racist and I should also defederate. But if it’s a lot of “other” or inconsistent reasons maybe I should spend a bit of time digging.

      • drathvedro@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        What’s up with all the pedo instances? Why are they creating instances in an open web? Are they dumb or something? It sounds to me that just registering the domain names of some of those could be considered a crime, nevermind openly inviting and hosting CSAM.

        • magnetosphere@kbin.social
          1·
          10 months ago

          Here’s the beginning of the Wikipedia article:

          Kiwi Farms, formerly known as CWCki Forums, is a web forum that facilitates the discussion and harassment of online figures and communities. Their targets are often subject to organized group trolling and stalking, as well as doxxing and real-life harassment.

          So, it’s an assholefarm.

          Although the name originated with one particular site, it looks like the name now applies to any site that serves a similar purpose. Bleah.

    • 520@kbin.social
      1·
      10 months ago

      The internet. It’s a fucked up place. Nothing like what the big players on the internet would have you believe.

      So long as there exists a way for people to not get prosecuted, these things will exist.

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Realistically, the more accessible the internet becomes the more it reflects the behavior of humanity at large.

        These things exist because they’re part of us. The internet probably makes them more visible, but I doubt it makes them more extant.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    seal.cafe, cawfee.club and sleepy.cafe sure got welcoming names. Given the number of defederations, I doubt the contents are anything like the names.

    • viking@infosec.pubEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Most of them were automatically defederated for not having adequate protection against bot signups, that got nothing to do with sketchy content.

      • hansl@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        If the bots are welcomed and they don’t have good enough moderation, this is just sketchy content with extra steps.

  • lemmyingly@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    Where/how is this obtained?

    I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.

    • Dramatic Shitposter@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Where/how is this obtained?

      I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.

      fba.ryona.agency

      Be aware that it doesn’t track when lemmy instances defederate from other fediverse instances correctly and hasn’t for months, and that it’s run someone from one of those 50 defederated instances.

  • Pohl@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    This is a real rogues gallery of internet. And… a soccer team from Detroit. What the fuck did those guys do?

      • deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        01·
        10 months ago

        Best sport in the world. Football is more than just FIFA etc, you know? Getting children to play and have fun is good. Me and my friends playing football is also good. But yeah, just boil everything down to how corps fuck things up.

        Lol why the f do I get downvoted for this.

    • Arelin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      31·
      10 months ago

      And the rest are racist.

      Took a look through some of the ones with tame names out of morbid curiosity; not that interesting tbh. Just hope I’m not on a watchlist now.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafeEnglish
      01·
      10 months ago

      Sees a bunch of “freeze speech” including “freespeechextremist”- lol the classic

      Sees “freecumextremist”- oh no, the classic!

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.caEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Some of these im… Curious about. Presumably the names are dog whistles (when they’re not just openly stating their purpose)… But IDK the whistle so I’m curious af.

    Not curious enough to get put on some list by actually checking them out though lol

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        But like…

        Free cum extremist?!? Porn and radical political views in the same place? I’m intrigued!

        I’m honestly most curious about wolfgirl because that just sounds like furry shit, but nobody hates furries that much, so what dog whistle am I missing???

        • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Wolfgirl: feed is broken, or possibly just denied until you login. Don’t care enough to make an account. About page:

          It’s not a war crime if you had fun doing it.
          I reserve the right to bully you in any way my administration powers allow, or just normally.

          Eh.

          FCE: broken, 50/50 chance of malware, meh.

    • evatronic@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      “cum.salon” sounds thrilling. I both want it to be exactly what it says it is, but also, something completely different.

    • cerement@slrpnk.netEnglish
      11·
      10 months ago

      try ’em out with Tor – get onto a federal list and an NSA list at the same time …

    • Natanael@slrpnk.netEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      So is Gab, but they got defederated by pretty much the entire network so fast that they just gave up and disabled federation on their own end

        • Iapar@feddit.deEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          You can always make an account.

          How about a good old raid? We need to invent a bonkers conspiracy theory first. Something that fools them into doing something good. Like jews don’t want you to donate blood and food because it helps them to keep this country divided.

          • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
            11·
            10 months ago

            I was honestly thinking of that during COVID. Have a conspiracy saying that the antivax conspiracies were peddled by russia or some form of deep state thing to kill off people who resist the instructions to get vaccinated

    • Akagigahara@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Federated means that any instance that is federated with them receives their content and can bee seen on that instance.

      Defederated means they are not federated anymore, thus blocking both users and content.

      It’s usually done to combat content you don’t want on your instance

      • bouldering_barista@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Ok ok… So me using Lemmy.world is a specific instance of Lemmy, so it’s almost like its own server? And other instances (maybe lemmy.unitiedstates?) is its own federated instance likely related to just U.S. posts and it can communicate with other instances? Do de-federated instances have no other communication with instances?

        Apologies if these are silly, I feel like a dum dum because everyone else seems to grasp this except me.

    • Gianmarco Gargiulo@feddit.itEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Defederated means that the server has been forbidden from connecting and communicating with specific other servers that have decided to defederate with it, so users from the server can’t see or interact with users and posts on the server that defederated it and vice versa. Hopefully I was clear and coincise.

    • WhatThaFudge@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      So you need to look at the number of de federations. That is basically how many other instances have blocked them and do not receive content from them to their feed. You can still go to all these instances using their respective urls and see what they are like. The reasons for blocking them vary depending on the instance. Edit: They can still be federated with other instances that don’t block them creating their own little fediverse bubbles.

  • yamanii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Eientei? From touhou? Wonder what’s in there. Also was expecting to see the pawoo competitor misskey.io since several japanese artists went there after Musk bought twitter.

    • Peter1986C@lemmings.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      I checked. Mostly a handful-of-people instance doing whatever on some Pleroma/Akkoma instance. Not much to see there and not much of what I could see there seemed to make much sense to me. Perhaps the defeds are mostly preventative but I cannot tell.

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Surprised Gab isn’t the record holder, it was the big deal example the fediverse advocates held up as how awesome the fediverse is at moderating itself, especially the “defed if federated with” rule instances started using to actually quarantine the users from Gab