As a Canadian I’m not sure what I would do for the next election if it is Trump vs Biden. I can’t support someone who keeps supporting Israel after their actions in the last couple of months. But Trump literally said he will jail journalist and protesters and wants to invade mexico. I also feel like Trump would support Israel too .
Yeah… I feel like one of those is significantly fucking worse than the other. Almost like one is an abhorrent thing that the president has been forced into by decades of the US being closely tied with Israel and due to a truly psychotic amount of Israeli lobbying done in the States that could completely upend the election
Then you have the other…
The dude who has said he would lock up opponents, kill migrants, jail journalists, commit crimes against his own people, sterilize Americans, kill his own people, encourages acts of violence against innocent people and the disabled, revoke democracy, install fascism and take control of the planets largest military while being directly controlled by a foreign terrorist state and who has OPENLY said he supports Bibi multiple times.
I feel like one of those is SIGNIFICANTLY FUCKING WORSE.
This isn’t a “Oh both sides suck and idk what to doooooo” situation. This is the best progressive president the US has had in decades versus Orange Hitler. Getting real sick of these takes that use exactly zero brain power. Anyone who makes them are either wildly uneducated in American politics, are a bad actor/troll, are a hateful person or is a moron.
You think that Biden was forced into this? Did somebody put a gun to his head? Do you honestly believe that Bernie Sanders would’ve said the same things if he were president?
Do you honestly believe that Bernie Sanders would’ve said the same things if he were president?
Yes and I think your belief that he wouldn’t shows an insane lack of understanding when it comes to party politics and the power of the office of the President.
Well, it’s very easy for you to make a claim like that, because it’s impossible for me to disprove it, but I find it implausible. For one thing, Trump did a lot of things that people thought were impossible for a president to do.
The things Trump did that were impossible were crimes. He didn’t do anything himself otherwise that had any impact. His party did. The house did. The Senate did. The supreme court did. He didn’t do anything personally at all. The President has way less power than you seem to comprehend. They are at the whims of Congress. You must have their support to do anything. Bernie would not have that support, as much as it would be nice.
You are not painting a realistic picture of the executive office.
Also, the gun is metaphorical. It is that support I was talking about.
Republicans have been vocal in support of Israel. I mean Lindsey Graham, a major trump backer, said Israel should completely level Gaza. People criticizing Biden and acting like Republicans would not be even worse regarding Palestine are not grounded in reality.
If trump actually planned to cut out a penny of israels budget AIPAC would eat him up, just like they do every other politician who forgets to kiss the ring. Since they’re quiet you can assume they are fine with his candidacy
I can’t support someone who keeps supporting Israel
Then anyone Republicans put up for election is off your list. That’s been the deal for the last several decades, evangelicals support Republicans because Republicans support Israel. “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem” and all that shit.
Even Trump took a fairly resolved situation, which was that the capital of Israel was in Tel Aviv (separating the government and the state of Israel from the hotly debated religious claims to ownership of Jerusalem and various sites there) and decided it was too much peace for him. So out of the blue in 2017 he said the US will now recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Cue completely foreseen and avoidable anger and unrest on multiple sides.
There are a lot of people in this thread saying the president doesn’t have much power, but there’s a good example: with the stroke (or spasm) of a pen the orange antichrist effectively moved the capital of a sovereign nation. No Congress, no Senate, no judiciary needed. And in doing so he set back peace in that region to 1947 levels. We’re at the six year mark of that act now: tell me, how is that working out for Israel and Gaza?
But if Republicans are elected, expect more of the same, because the evangelicals are not only convinced their salvation is dependent on their support of Israel, and that “god” will turn a blind eye to their MANY sins if they do this consistently, they are ALSO trying very hard to get Jesus to come back on the return leg of his promised round trip, so they will do everything in their power to destabilize the Middle East because they think that by doing so they can force the divine hand. Or, to use the parlance of that group, they believe war in Israel means they will be taken up in the Rapture. To Glory. While the rest of us bake in the detritus they have left behind.
As a Canadian I’m not sure what I would do for the next election if it is Trump vs Biden. I can’t support someone who keeps supporting Israel after their actions in the last couple of months. But Trump literally said he will jail journalist and protesters and wants to invade mexico. I also feel like Trump would support Israel too .
Yeah… I feel like one of those is significantly fucking worse than the other. Almost like one is an abhorrent thing that the president has been forced into by decades of the US being closely tied with Israel and due to a truly psychotic amount of Israeli lobbying done in the States that could completely upend the election
Then you have the other…
The dude who has said he would lock up opponents, kill migrants, jail journalists, commit crimes against his own people, sterilize Americans, kill his own people, encourages acts of violence against innocent people and the disabled, revoke democracy, install fascism and take control of the planets largest military while being directly controlled by a foreign terrorist state and who has OPENLY said he supports Bibi multiple times.
I feel like one of those is SIGNIFICANTLY FUCKING WORSE.
This isn’t a “Oh both sides suck and idk what to doooooo” situation. This is the best progressive president the US has had in decades versus Orange Hitler. Getting real sick of these takes that use exactly zero brain power. Anyone who makes them are either wildly uneducated in American politics, are a bad actor/troll, are a hateful person or is a moron.
You think that Biden was forced into this? Did somebody put a gun to his head? Do you honestly believe that Bernie Sanders would’ve said the same things if he were president?
Yes and I think your belief that he wouldn’t shows an insane lack of understanding when it comes to party politics and the power of the office of the President.
Well, it’s very easy for you to make a claim like that, because it’s impossible for me to disprove it, but I find it implausible. For one thing, Trump did a lot of things that people thought were impossible for a president to do.
Again, nobody held a gun to Biden’s head.
The things Trump did that were impossible were crimes. He didn’t do anything himself otherwise that had any impact. His party did. The house did. The Senate did. The supreme court did. He didn’t do anything personally at all. The President has way less power than you seem to comprehend. They are at the whims of Congress. You must have their support to do anything. Bernie would not have that support, as much as it would be nice.
You are not painting a realistic picture of the executive office.
Also, the gun is metaphorical. It is that support I was talking about.
Republicans have been vocal in support of Israel. I mean Lindsey Graham, a major trump backer, said Israel should completely level Gaza. People criticizing Biden and acting like Republicans would not be even worse regarding Palestine are not grounded in reality.
He did support Israel and would again, honestly this isn’t something that any canidate likely to win would change.
Yay America… 🙃
If trump actually planned to cut out a penny of israels budget AIPAC would eat him up, just like they do every other politician who forgets to kiss the ring. Since they’re quiet you can assume they are fine with his candidacy
Do you like, not understand how party politics work?
I understand that both parties suck.
As a Canadian, you should maybe think about how bad it could get for Canada if Trump is elected.
I really don’t want Trump as president again . He will probably never leave office and declare any loosing elections rigged . But Biden also sucks .
Then anyone Republicans put up for election is off your list. That’s been the deal for the last several decades, evangelicals support Republicans because Republicans support Israel. “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem” and all that shit.
Even Trump took a fairly resolved situation, which was that the capital of Israel was in Tel Aviv (separating the government and the state of Israel from the hotly debated religious claims to ownership of Jerusalem and various sites there) and decided it was too much peace for him. So out of the blue in 2017 he said the US will now recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Cue completely foreseen and avoidable anger and unrest on multiple sides.
There are a lot of people in this thread saying the president doesn’t have much power, but there’s a good example: with the stroke (or spasm) of a pen the orange antichrist effectively moved the capital of a sovereign nation. No Congress, no Senate, no judiciary needed. And in doing so he set back peace in that region to 1947 levels. We’re at the six year mark of that act now: tell me, how is that working out for Israel and Gaza?
But if Republicans are elected, expect more of the same, because the evangelicals are not only convinced their salvation is dependent on their support of Israel, and that “god” will turn a blind eye to their MANY sins if they do this consistently, they are ALSO trying very hard to get Jesus to come back on the return leg of his promised round trip, so they will do everything in their power to destabilize the Middle East because they think that by doing so they can force the divine hand. Or, to use the parlance of that group, they believe war in Israel means they will be taken up in the Rapture. To Glory. While the rest of us bake in the detritus they have left behind.
I’m voting for Jill Stein or Cornel West. Both are much better choices than Trump or Biden.