• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    She was a fantastic choice when the choices were her and Trump. That time has passed, and with it her value as a lesser evil.

    By more objective measures, she’s just another sack of shit.

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        4 days ago

        Correct. And lesser. Did your actions nudge the scale toward the lesser evil or the greater evil? Cuz if you had the opportunity to do the former and chose to do nothing over some ideal, your inaction supported the greater evil. Lots of people did just that, and the greater evil won.

        We desperately need systemic change, but that’s not going to happen with a ballot - best we can do there is damage control, so do damage control. Do other shit too, but understand that your vote is a dichotomy.

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          4 days ago

          I didn’t “do nothing over some ideal”. I voted for Jill Stein over some ideal. If more people had done that, we wouldn’t be in the current shitshow.

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            I didn’t “do nothing over some ideal”. I voted for Jill Stein over some ideal.

            Reminds me of an old Red vs Blue skit.

            “It’s not pink! It’s light red!!”

            You had some measure of power to nudge the outcome away from Donald Trump, and you chose not to. That is synonymous with doing nothing. Now we have Donald Trump. You sure showed us!

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      3 days ago

      She never was a fantastic choice, and the proof for that is that Trump is president. Had she been a fantastic choice, people would have voted for her. But sure, keep blaming all the voters for the Democrat inability to place someone remotely humane and electable instead of Ms. “We love Cheney and the US needs to have the most lethal armed forces in the world”.

      It’s crazy to me that, after the resounding victory by a progressive that we’ve seen two days ago, you keep blaming the voters. As soon as someone remotely progressive appeared in an election, people went to vote for him in droves. Mamdani is a literal Muslim millennial, hardly the most appreciated demographic in the USA, and yet he smashed the opponents despite constant smear campaigns. Maybe there’s a lesson or two you could learn from that?

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        3 days ago

        The blame for culpability in the Trump regime’s rise to power falls onto many different people and groups that absolutely includes the voters.

        She was a fantastic choice -and here’s the important part- compared to Trump.

        Without that contrast, she was shit. Our options were a spoonful of shit vs a mountain of shit. The DNC is responsible for running a spoonful of shit, but the voters are responsible for choosing the mountain.

        Should the DNC run people who aren’t shit? YES. Please, yes. But that’s not what we got.

        All the rights we’ve lost under Trump, the economic collapse he’s causing, the deaths he enthusiastically did nothing to prevent in Ukraine/Gaza, the families that have been torn apart by ICE… the voters could have stopped that. The voters chose to let it happen.

        Is there a lesson to be learned here? Yeah. Several. Will that lesson actually stick where we need it to (to the DNC)? Lol fuck no. The DNC won’t learn shit until we break out the guillotines. But in the meantime, we the voters need to be more strategic with our resources, which includes decision making like deliberately stepping on a turd if that puts us on a path around the mountain of shit.