• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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      1 year ago

      The inventor of corn flakes said it would stop masturbation.

      The inventor of Vaseline ate the shit.

      Just because you made something, doesn’t make you right about everything to do with that thing.

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        Doesnt matter what the creator used it for. We still call them Corn Flakes and Vaseline. Thank you for proving my point.

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        I did know about the inventor of corn flakes from drunk history, but I did not know about the inventor of Vaseline eating. What I hope you’re talking about is Vaseline and not poop.

        Where did you hear that? I believe it. I’m just curious how you came across this information.

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          He ate the Vaseline. I think it was on Wikipedia, but I just was looking up if it was actually edible because of the song She Don’t Use Jelly by The Flaming Lips and some other thing about putting Vaseline on toast. Dude thought it had all sorts of health benefits.

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        It’s widely recognized that you get to name it tho.

        Nice try with the fallacious comparisons.

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      Do you call it Velcro, or Hook and Loop fasteners?

      The Velcro Company created it and wants people to stop using their company name to describe it. Guessing you (along with everyone else) still calls it Velcro and will continue to do so regardless of what the creator thinks.

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      Jif goes on toast. I’m going to say Gif and neither you nor the creator can stop me.

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        The tag line offered by the creator when they created the format was “choosey image users choose gif”.

        It’s supposed to be pronounced like the peanut butter.

        You’re right about one thing, though. We definitely can’t stop you from being completely wrong.

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      It stands for Graphics Interchange Format not Jraphics Interchange Format.

      Creator wrong, yo.

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          Moving Picture Coding Experts-1 Group Audio Layer III.

          Empicoexonegraul three, obviously.

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        Acronyms don’t have to be pronounced the way their constituents are pronounced. Unless you’re going to walk around saying “Puh-Thyoos” instead of POTUS, your statement is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

        The creator can’t be wrong, they created it. They get to name it. Not you.

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          They get to name it. Not you.

          Incorrect. According to linguistics, the public gets to name it. You can call it whatever you like when you invent it but there is zero guarantee that people are going to call it that. Example? Do you go around calling it ‘Hook and Loop fastener’ or do you call it Velcro? Even the company Velcro openly says its called hook and loop fastener but no one listens to them. One could argue it’s a form of neologism in that the public has taken a different name and stuck it to it. Other examples are using xerox instead of photocopying, grabbing a kleenex instead of a facial tissue, or a q-tip instead of a cotton swap. The same logic applies to the public adoption of how to pronounce a word. Want more proof? Every major dictionary lists the pronunciation as both giff and jiff. Cambridge Dictionary doesn’t even have jiff, it only has giff as the pronunciation.

          So at the MOST you could argue that we’re both right but you it’s simply untrue to say that the public doesn’t get to name it and simply untrue that the correct way is jiff.

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            Those are just brand names, completely irrelevant to the discussion. If you went around calling “hook and loop tape” “book and poop tape” you’d be wrong. Like you are now.

            And no, the public doesn’t get to name it. They can call it whatever they like, but they don’t get to decide its correct name. Hook and loop tape is still called hook and loop tape, even if most people say velcro. Between the two names, “hook and loop tape” is the most correct. Velcro is a colloqualism.

            If you were to write it in an essay or scientific paper, you would say “hook and loop tape”. If it was actually Velcro branded, you’d say “Velcro branded hook and loop tape”.

            You’ve now twice attempted and failed to pass off a logical fallacy as an actual argument.

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              Nope. Not irrelevant to the discussion, it’s a demonstration of a neologism. I could use other examples as well. That being said…

              The fact that you’re just doubling down on that one individual thing and ignoring everything else really goes to show that you literally have no answer to the whole part about how dictionaries are literally proving you wrong. You know. On a meme post that you are getting really weirdly upset over.

              Have fun with that lol

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                “Ignoring everything else” lmao what other points have you made? I’ve shut down every part of everything you’ve said while you completely ignored my comment about how acronyms are not pronounced according to their constituents. You also completely ignored my point about “hook and loop tape” still being the most correct name, and how in any professional setting “velcro” would be insufficiently descriptive.

                “doubling down on that one individual thing and ignoring everything else really goes to show that you literally have no answer” - irony

                “A meme post that you are getting really weirdly upset over” - delicious irony

                And you keep using the word neologism, but I don’t think you understand what it means. Brand names are not neologisms. You have given exactly 0 examples of neologisms.

                I’m not trying to make you pronounce gif correctly, you can pronounce it wrong if you want, just don’t strut around acting like you’re saying it right when you’re clearly not.