There is not a single reason for any human to get access to alcohol to drink.

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Just to add the people who say that banning does not work is like saying banning guns does not work because people is going to find a way to get them or like saying we should not have speed limits because it does not prevent people from speeding. (Their opinions does not make sense to me)

  • TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Hey actually unpopular, nice.

    Alcohol killed my father. Ruined multiple relationships of mine. Severely impacted my life in multiple ways. I’ve yet to touch a drop.

    I mention all this because if someone was gonna have beef with Alcohol laws, I’d be one of them lol.

    If it wasn’t Alcohol the addicts would have found something else. They’re running from mental issues and masking with things to forget.

    Banning never works. The issues are almost always more complex and nuanced.

    Thank you again for the unpopular opinion!

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    9 months ago

    You’re going to need to ban a lot of other things, including fruit, because people will just make it at home. Except it’ll be unregulated, then people will start dying even harder.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah. You’ll get there.

        The only friend I ever had die of actual alcohol ingestion was distilling it himself and made wood alcohol that killed him.

        • King@lemy.lolOP
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          9 months ago

          Why we did not hear about stuff like this in saudi arabia?

      • nottelling@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        That’s literally what happened throughout the US in the 1920s.

        I can make alcohol in a bowl on my counter with sugar, yeast, water, potatoes, and a couple weeks waiting. I can do it much faster and more effectively with a little copper tubing and some heat.

        • King@lemy.lolOP
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          9 months ago

          Great, how much can you make?

          The way that banning work is by limiting the availability.

          If you are a addict you cannot go to the bar for drink.

          Which means the banning work in your case.

          • halferect@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Well when they banned it in the united states you could still go to a bar it was just illegal, they just had to be secret bars, if anything banning it makes it more dangerous since then it’s completely unregulated and you get bad moonshine and you go blind.

          • socialpankakemix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            9 months ago

            banning alcohol only reduced LEGAL AVAILABILITY, people will still be able to make mass quantities of alcohol for sale, these products will almost certainly not be up to standards of local health and safety originations and will result in more harm than if purchased through a legal source.

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    9 months ago

    There is not a single reason for any human to get access to alcohol.

    But there is. Because people enjoy it. Because it is a carrier of culture, tradition, and history. There are many things that people do that have risks, negative health effects, etc. Should all of that be illegal? Rock climbers sometimes need rescue, whose cost is often born by the public. Cell phones cause distracted driving. Processed foods make it easier for people to overeat, become obese, die, and create costs for society along the way.

    Your premise is that there isn’t some transactional, functional value of alcohol. But people aren’t robots and we get value from the emotion and experience of things.

    Tax alcohol to cover negative externalities, enforce drunk driving laws, force disclaimers about the health impact, and let people make informed, but free, choices.

    Good unpopular opinion though. Good discussion! Have a great day!

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      9 months ago

      If you think people think about culture when they drink cheap booze, you are insane. Heroin has such a rich culture and people have done it for so long now, why isn’t everyone doing heroin?

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        9 months ago

        You should read your links.

        The tl;Dr on that article is that the government is enacting a ban of some specific packaging under a lot of speculation that it’ll reduce kids access to alcohol and reduce underage drinking.

        • This ban is targeted at a specific target, focused on a specific demographic.
        • This ban hasn’t even been implemented, there’s no evidence of it being effective. Just “the government says it’ll work”
        • We have similar bans and controls on vaping and tobacco in the U.S. and it barely dents underage vaping and smoking. That’s pretty good evidence that this is gonna fail for the same reasons.
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          9 months ago

          From the link:

          How effective are bans of liquor products?

          Well-coordinated enforcement of the ban can check the availability of sachet alcoholic beverages. This should reduce accessibility, consumption and related harms among young people.

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    8 months ago

    I believe the law of offer and demand apply here, as if you ban alcohol there still be demand what will happen it’s illegal fabrication and distribution of it will lead to the surge of alcohol mobs and smuggling, which at the same time will lead to absence of regulation ergo alcohol will be worst for public health. So according to my logic making alcohol illegal will be worst at the middle and long term, maybe if you end with the demand you can end offer too but I believe it’s hard to do because usually humans are complicated and always there will be someone who would want to slowly kill themself at exchange of evading a shitty reality.

    So maybe if we collectively end with the shitty reality then eventually we will end with substance(included alcohol) abuse WO having to ban anything at all.