French President Emmanuel Macron met with parliamentary parties on Thursday. During the meeting Macron said he was open to the possibility of sending troops to Ukraine, as announced by, according to French newspaper L’Independant.

Fabien Roussel, a representative of the French Communist Party, said after the meeting that “Macron referenced a scenario that could lead to intervention [of French troops]: the advancement of the front towards Odesa or Kyiv.”

He noted that the French President showed parliamentarians maps of the possible directions of strikes by Russian troops in Ukraine.

Following the meeting, Jordan Bardella of the far-right National Rally party noted that “there are no restrictions and no red lines” in Macron’s approach.

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      I see the two of you don’t understand how a military works then. You don’t join a military, and then bitch and complain if you are sent to fight, it’s literally what you signed up for. If in this specific situation you are not French, you should also probably just keep your mouth shut

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        Because France is part of NATO and the EU, getting to war with Russia doesn’t only means sending professional troops, but most likely total war where even civilians would be drafted

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        You don’t join a military, and then bitch and complain if you are sent to fight

        Look at yourself, you are talking like an human without soul. People are not robots or machines they join the military because perhaps they believe in justice and want to defend their own people from villains. There’s no justice in fighting a war for business, there’s no justice in fighting wars for corrupted politicians at the expenses of innocent people.

        We are all humans and everyone should be allowed and encouraged to talk not to keep his mouth shout.

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          because perhaps they believe in justice and want to defend their own people from villains.

          So like Putin?

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            Politicians and rulers are bad actors and professional liars who use everything as a leverage to get more wealth and power. Stalin fought the nazi in WWII, was he a good human being? fuck no he was a dictator himself tripping on power.

            Politician who these days call for freedom on one hand while supporting a genocide in the other are scum, it’s not that hard to see.

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                no? read the comments more carefully, if you need take a break walk around take a nap or eat something, there’s no hurry.

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                  You brought up Stalin and the Nazis. Who is Stalin and who are the Nazis in this situation?

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                    I think they just pulled an easy example out of their ass, the argument doesn’t actually relate to what they’re trying to say.

                    Just “here’s a thing that will make you look dumb if you argue against” in a statement that otherwise doesn’t relate to what’s being said.

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          Finland, Switzerland, Austria, and Greece. These are the European countries with conscription. On paper, Norway and Sweden have conscription, but in all actuality there’s basically no way you get conscripted involuntarily.

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              In that case your point either doesn’t make sense or was badly explained. Both are entirely your fault.

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          and you don’t understand the difference between a career soldier and a conscript. Let me enlighten you:

          As a conscript you will be drafted only in a defense situation, an actual war in your own country. Simply spoken when the Russians are at your doorstep.

          A career soldier can send to missions either an official NATO one or one approved by your country’s commanding officer of your army.

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            As a conscript you will be drafted only in a defense situation, an actual war in your own country. Simply spoken when the Russians are at your doorstep.

            I’m sure all those drafted/conscripts who went to Vietnam totally felt like they were defending their country from imminent attack!

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              you know that this is Europe here, right? But I see you don’t even care, do you?

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                    Booohooo sniff sniff oh noes. Keep your head in the sand, ultimately it will be your demise I guess, I’m too old to get conscripted at this point. But I do remember the past.

                    Algerian War at its height, 57% of the army consisted of conscripts, mostly from metropolitan France.

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          These are not the guys they’ll send out in a war. Unlike Russia, Western nations don’t need cannon fodder.

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            You are right, I forgot, the west would never do that!

            Thinking the wealthy class won’t send you to war has got to but one of the smoothest brain takes I’ve heard all year.