• Donkter@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Monkey pays to live. He pays in the form of the daily labor of foraging, avoiding predators and finding shelter. It’s just not converted to the generalized form of money and then back to the basic needs of the monkey like we do it.

    Labor is the basic unit of wealth. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

  • pb42184@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’ve thought about this. Have the “Agriculture was a trap!” people ever designed like a hunter gatherer Eden? Like not historical reenactment. We have tech be a human and use it. But like buy a few hundred acres and plant a shitload of fruit trees with modern fertilizer, use GPS to navigate it, live in a badass modern tent…

    Not for me, but those people seriously seem to have the option right there

  • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    you can work for food or you can work for tokens then exchange tokens for food but to imagine that every other living thing is just having a lovely time vibing and munching on infinite, freely available grindage while humans are the only species that has to do shit that sucks is just ignorant Rousseau noble savage dumbness

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          I know this is a joke, but for real outdoor domesticated cats kill 1.3-4 billion songbirds a year… and most of those cats are being fed by humans.

          They really do need to stop working so hard, and humans really need to start thinking about the ethics of letting their cat out to slaughter the wildlife around their home for no reason.

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            3 months ago

            I keep finding dead things in my yard because of this. There are at least 3 “neighborhood cats” that someone lets run wild. They’re definitely fed, groomed and collared, they have somewhere to go at night. Do you know of any techniques to reduce the impact short of just letting them come into my house during the day?

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                  Maybe not. The bars on our cage are too small for cats to actually get at the rats, and they don’t try. The rats are unbothered by cats being around. Obviously we close the bedroom off when it’s ratty playtime.

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Technically we pay for all the shit that makes living on earth less brutal than what the monke has to put up with on a daily basis

    Money tends to be less painful than getting mauled by a predator trying to scavenge food

    Also we have beer! No seriously archeological evidence suggests beer was the main selling point of settled civilization for a lot of groups, so much so that it was the money until someone in turkey figured out you could use weird metal disks for that instead.

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      3 months ago

      Money tends to be less painful than getting mauled by a predator trying to scavenge food

      Easy to say when you’re ensconced in the imperial core. But I wouldn’t want to be living on the periphery. Humans are far crueler and more destructive than any natural predator.

      A jaguar won’t double-tap your house with a missile strike, to make sure it kills everyone inside and then any neighbors who rush in to help. An orca won’t spend six years running caricatures of you in a tabloid newspaper, in order to build up enough bigotry and fear against your neighborhood that there’s no push back when local politicians green light it for “slum clearance”. No chimpanzee ever worked at Abu Ghraib or Vladimir Prison.

      What humans do for money is far worse than what any predator has ever done for a meal.

  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    TBH if Orangutans knew they could pay to conserve their own habitat and buy more food then they’d probably be working jobs, too.