• Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      Not the same person, but I’m in a similar position, just further along. Getting meat out of my diet was actually really trivial. Cheese is the big problem.

      Fully vegan when I cook at home, but vegan options in restaurants and fast food are non-existent where I live, so I have cheese whenever I eat out. I’ve also come to terms with the fact I can never be fully vegan because I have 2 cats who need their cat food.

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        Dairy contains a morphine-like substance so baby calves are drawn to it. Cheese is literally addictive.

        While many scientists believe cats to be obligate carnivores, one study attempted to show that many of the studies conducted in plant-based diets to not show any detrimental effects, when the test wasn’t conducted poorly or there was already a selection bias in place.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

        Just something to consider. This doesn’t cement veganism for domestic felines, but it does show that better studies need to be conducted.

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          Cheese is literally addictive

          I’m aware, but I don’t eat cheese out of choice. The times I do eat cheese are because I’m in a restaurant with family/friends and my options are being hungry the whole night, eating meat, or eating a salad with cheese in it. With those options, I take the cheese. Again, I don’t eat cheese at home.

          This doesn’t cement veganism for domestic felines, but it does show that better studies need to be conducted

          Fair enough. I’ll keep an eye out, but I’m immediately skeptical because unlike us humans, cats are naturally carnivorous.

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        6 months ago

        Honestly, I’ve stopped chasing substitutes a while ago. Giving up meat and dairy is going to be a lifestyle change, that’s why people struggle so much with it. You can’t expect to just sub in imitations and keep eating the same foods. They’re not close enough to fool anyone, and they’re usually expensive and unhealthy.

        The best way eat vegan is to fill your diet with minimally processed legumes, grains, fruits, and vegetables. Learn to cook a few staple meals from cultural cuisines where animal products are expensive (most cultures outside US/Canada and Western Europe) and you’ll realize how much great food you can make with a few simple ingredients and one or two pots. A huge number of them fall into the same basic formula, so if you learn one, you can easily make them all. Plus, it’s much, much cheaper than eating meat.

        I’m not vegan but I do eat 95% vegan because my wife is and I agreed to buy and cook solely vegan in the house. I come from a culture with plenty of (accidentally) vegan home cooking already, so it wasn’t hard at all. But those substitutes are gross to me. Apologies to those who like them.

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        6 months ago

        Well milk is easy. Just get soy milk or almond milk as a drop-in replacement. There’s even weird ones like cashew milk. Depending on where you are at though that might be too expensive compared to dairy milk.

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          Where I live, soy milk is less than half the price of cow boob milk. Perks of living in East Asia, I guess.

          I bought a 936 mL (1/4 gallons) carton of soy milk today, and it was only about US$1.1 (NT$35). Very affordable.

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          Oat milk is really good too and is usually cheaper than almond milk, at least where I live.

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            I normally prefer soy for flavor, with oat as a close second.

            For nutritional value, I think soy is the top, followed by pea, and oat way behind.

            For environmental impact/needs, I think soy and oat are also among the best.

            Soy milk is a miracle food and we should embrace it.

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      6 months ago

      I’m working my way towards it! Did a one month trial run, now I am back to my previous diet but increasing my vegan meals and decreasing my meals with animal products.

      I would welcome tips, though!

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        Not who you replied to originally, but since you said you welcome tips:

        Learn to cook tofu. There’s different levels of firmness, and an infinite number of ways to prepare and cook it. Try them all. Not everyone’s texture preference is the same. So the way I cook it and the way you cook it can vary drastically.

        I hated tofu for ages until I found a way to cook it that yielded the outcome I liked.

        Once you figure out the best way to achieve the texture you’re after, you can start worrying about seasoning it. Then you’re golden.