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Consciousness and conscience are not the same thing, this naming is horrible
The game SOMA represents this case the best. Highly recommended!
Yes, I immediately thought about SOMA after reading the post. recommendations++
Did they ever allow for turning off head bob and blur? That game makes me motion sick to an insane degree.
If anyone’s interested in a hard sci-fi show about uploading consciousness they should watch the animated series Pantheon. Not only does the technology feel realistic, but the way it’s created and used by big tech companies is uncomfortably real.
The show got kinda screwed over on advertising and fell to obscurity because of streaming service fuck ups and region locking, and I can’t help but wonder if it’s at least partially because of its harsh criticisms of the tech industry.
Just FYI content warning for Pantheon there is a seriously disturbing gore/kill scene that is animated too well in the first season. Anyone who has seen the show knows what scene I am talking about, I found the scene pretty upsetting and I almost didn’t finish the show. I am still a little upset that the scene is burned in my memory.
I really thought you were going to mention “Upload” on Prime. Same creator as the office.
That show is garbage
The show got kinda screwed over on advertising and fell to obscurity because of streaming service fuck ups and region locking, and I can’t help but wonder if it’s at least partially because of its harsh criticisms of the tech industry.
Okay so I can’t 100% confirm this, but the first season wasn’t popular because it was on whatever the fuck AMC+ is. Amazon bought it because of the writer’s strike to get something out.
Yes, I just finished watching Pantheon and absolutely loved it!
Totally agree that it deserved more attention. At least it got a proper ending with season 2.
Also, the voice acting talent they got was impressive. Paul Dano was fantastic as one of the leads.
Soma is a wonderful game that covers this type of thing. It does make you wonder what consciousness really is… Maybe the ability to perceive and store information, along with retrieving that information, is enough to provide an illusion of consistent self?
Or maybe it’s some competely strange system, unkown to science. Who knows?
Provide the illusion to whom?
I think the definition of consciousness needs to not be solely about abilities or attributes. It needs to account for the active process of consciousness. Like a hair dryer can burn things… but a fire is things burning. Without the active nature its simply not conscious.
Maybe consciousness is everywhere, and has nothing to do with mechanisms.
I don’t think anything gave me existential doom quite as much as the ending of that game.
The comic sans makes this even deeper
Who the fuck uses comic sans for programming? I use comic mono.
Seriously, I kinda want to use it for my markdown files.
damn bro
oh god why is it real
At least it’s not Comic Sans IN THE IDE (or vim/emacs for the brave).
Comic sans in vim is peak insanity
What if you do it in a ship of theseus type of way. Like, swapping each part of the brain with an electronic one slowly until there is no brain left.
Wonder if that will work.
If I remember right, the game The Talos Principle calls that the Talos principle
Sounds like the sort of the The Talos Principle would call that
The tv show Pantheon figures it will work, but it will be very disturbing.
Was looking for the Pantheon reference in this thread! Just finished that show and loved it. Of course it takes plenty of liberties for the sake of the storytelling, but still, at least it explores these interesting topics!
Anyone reading this thread, do yourself a favor and check out Pantheon!
A copy is fine. I can still seek vengeance on my enemies from beyond the grave.
would’ve made more sense if it was rust
(or is the copy intential here?)
Plottwist: consciousness is : Copy
It’s pinned and
!Unpin, and only has private constructors.Uploading is a matter of implementing
Clone
throws UserNotPaidExceptionthe plot of
spoiler
SOMA
in a nutshell?
Whats the difference between
void fn(Type& var)andvoid fn(Type* var)?I guess you ask for C++. There Type* can be null while Type& can’t be null. When it gets compiled Type& is compiled (mostly) to the same machinecode as Type*.
You can pass nullptr in the second example (that is not what OP wrote though, hes second is making a copy).
Thanks, I was Just curious. I knew what * did but I wasn’t sure about &
That’s why I’m going for brain in a jar.
void teleport(Person person);
I’ve always said that teleporters are just suicide machines that sometimes spit a clone out somewhere else.
I know myself deeply enough to be totally fine with a copy. I’d be my own copy’s pet if it came to that. I trust me.
Yeah we’d work together well and the sex would be great.
Related book recommendation!!
Kil’n People by David Brin - it’s a futuristic Murder Mystery Novel about a society where people copy their consciousnesses to temporary clay clones to do mundane tasks for them. Got some really interesting discussions about what constitutes personhood!
Some of the concepts in this book really stuck with me, but I had no idea what the title was! Thanks!
“Some days you’re the original, some days you’re the copy” or something like that
