• GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    My partner and I ran into one of my (adult) nephews friends at the store back in in the early days of the pandemic. We were talking about trying to get the vaccine, and he replied “I choose not to live my life in fear.”

    Oh? It seems like you’re pretty afraid of the “jab” to me.

    These people are oblivious to how stupid they sound…

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      I choose not to live my life in fear.

      Because of course the only options are crippling fear or reckless disregard for the safety of yourself and others. It’s simply not possible to take precauations based on science and logical, rational thinking.

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      Those were my libertarian friends exact words too. Then he rattled off all these “studies” that showed the vaccine was dangerous, even claiming that in a couple years, health insurances would be charging vaccinated people more because of the higher risk.

      But sure, I live my life in fear. A former amateur boxing, sketchy Chinese mountain plank walking, great white cage diving, coward.

    • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Herman Cain made the same choice, and yet viruses are remarkably persistent in infecting these people who don’t live in fear just the same. I wish COVID had made many more antivaxxers ill before it faded into the background.

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    7 months ago

    It’s stress, you idiot. Stress causes psoriasis flare ups. And you’re so damn obsessed with your fear of a vaccine it’s causing you stress.

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      7 months ago

      Oh no Honey, she’s convinced OTHER people are worried about their health. She’s got (God) on her side.

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    The world must seem like a scarier place for someone this stupid. Can’t understand primary or secondary research sources, everything looks like claims because of a lack of understanding of evidence, never learned how to critically evaluate conclusions from observations, etc.

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      7 months ago

      She also talks later about how she’s getting on disability because of her eyesight. So how does she even know?

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    7 months ago

    If you could be exposed to the vaccine second-hand it wouldn’t be such a big deal if you didn’t get the shot (it would just take longer). But that isn’t how it works.

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    7 months ago

    The irony of mentioning shingles. You can get shingles if you had chickenpox. The best way to prevent shingles is to get the vaccine.

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      7 months ago

      It says “Singles.” They’re warning unmarried people who have sex to be wary of “secretions.”

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      Which my universal health care won’t pay for until I’m 60 for no discernable reason because under 60 people get shingles. I’ve had chicken pox as a child and I fear shingles.

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        7 months ago

        My 30 year old boss recently got shingles. It was the same issue with him. They wouldn’t vax him because “people that young don’t get shingles”.

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          Problem is people are stupid, lazy, and/or corrupt in all fields, including the medical field. It’s a big part of the reason why anti-vax and anti-science movements exist: partially from that retracted study that initially claimed autism was caused by vaccines, partially from cases where the “expert” is following some obviously flawed dogma (like “people that young don’t get shingles”), partially from corrupt studies being exposed later on as fraudulent, like the tobacco industry “studies” that claimed smoking wasn’t dangerous.

          The part that sucks is that I don’t believe there’s a good solution to this because that set of flaws can hit either side of any argument.

          I also believe that it’s related to our ability to progress itself: humanity kinda brute forces beliefs and it sometimes works out for the better, when people like Galileo, da Vinci, Newton, or Einstein think everyone else is missing something or flat out wrong about some stuff and revolutionize our understanding of physics or what’s possible with machines. Sometimes it works out for the worse, like the anti-vax movement, flat earth, anti-Semitism, or believing that opposing oppression and genocide is anti-Semitism.

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          I’ve known four people younger than 60 to get it personally so that’s some horse pucky, of course. Why not just give it to people who had chicken pox?

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    7 months ago

    This strikes me as a way desperate people who have little to offer a relationship are trying to make themselves seem more desirable.

    “Sure, I don’t take care of myself and I’m no fun to be around and I haven’t had a job since 1997, but those other people have secret contagious vaccine secretions. Do you really want to risk that?”