• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    6 months ago

    Since that article says virtually nothing… does Israel accept that proposal? Otherwise, this hardly matters.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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      6 months ago

      The point right now is determining what the sticking points are and why. This may not matter to Israel, but it does matter to the larger international community including the USA.

      Israel has benefited in this conflict by having good enough diplomatic support to prevent a major escalation in the region. However, it is going to be a lot harder for countries like Egypt and Jordan to continue supporting Israeli security in the region as the counterattack looks more like a genocide. The issue is even becoming a pain point for Biden, who needs this issue to go away before the election.

      I don’t see Israel changing its mind because of this, but I see the other countries in the region doing so.

    • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      It’s unlikely that the details will be known before an agreement is reached.

      But to your point, what really matters is whether the USA will force Israel to accept the proposal, or if the Israeli population protests harder against Netanyahu (but that’s unlikely to reach the required mass).

      Netanyahu wants the war to continue and will not accept any deal, unless his hand is forced.

      Anyway, Israel was telling people to flee Rafah. My local news says they are probably doing that to pressure Hamas by panicking the Gazan population.

      So, no, I don’t think Israel will accept the deal.

    • iAmTheTot@kbin.social
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      6 months ago

      Why are you so cynically dismissive of breaking news that one side of a war would be willing to accept a ceasefire proposal? It matters a lot.

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          6 months ago

          I think a ceasefire is going to require Hamas ceding any claim to power over Gaza, I don’t see Netanyahu going for anything less. His reign is over the moment the war stops and likely both sides will be facing criminal courts, so I think Hamas is going to have to take the lesser end of the stick in any deal.

          Its now just a question of which side gets what for their people before stepping down.

    • djsoren19@yiffit.net
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      6 months ago

      They’re refusing the proposal, and they believe that the only reason the proposal was offered was to make Israel look bad by …forcing them to refuse the proposal? As if a good faith effort to collaborate with two other powers in the region for a mutually beneficial ceasefire is an insult to them? As if Israel needs any help looking like the bad guys in this conflict?

    • EatATaco@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      The article is pretty devoid of any information. I get what you mean, but can you explain how you got to this conclusion?

  • DarkGamer@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    An Israeli official said no ceasefire had been agreed in Gaza, after Hamas said it had accepted a proposal from Egyptian and Qatari mediators over the Israel-Gaza conflict.
    The Israeli official said the proposal that Hamas had accepted was a “softened” version of an Egyptian proposal, which included “far-reaching” conclusions that Israel could not accept.
    “This would appear to be a ruse intended to make Israel look like the side refusing a deal,” said the Israeli official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rafah-live-gazans-start-leaving-parts-southern-city-israel-warns-operation-2024-05-06/

    • Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      The far reaching parts of the proposal involve steps to actually break the cycle and ultimately get to a two state solution. Israel doesn’t actually want a real two state solution, so of course they’re going to reject it.

  • The Assman@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Didn’t they bomb a border crossing right after the peace talks ended on Sunday? It’s hard to read these guys.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      No, they attacked tanks preparing for the invasion of Rafah a couple kilometers from the border and the Israeli government twisted that into an attack on the border crossing itself, using it as an excuse to cut off all aid coming in.