hot take?
Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought…
I use Ubuntu for all my home lab servers unless there’s a specific requirement for something else.
I never install the desktop version except when experimenting, and in those cases, I’d be just as happy using any other distro, since those use cases are fairly limited both in scope and duration.
Ubuntu is just the os I put on virtual servers.
Judge me if you want. I really could not possibly care less. I also use Windows on my daily driver desktop.
I’m considering going canonical MAAS for a new deployment of open stack servers which will be replacing my current hypervisors (which are VMware), pushing Ubuntu and OpenStack onto systems for use and probably also using MAAS to roll out future virtual machines in OpenStack.
I like the canonical Kool aid.
Were you able to run headless without installing snapd? I tried and tried, but there was some shared library dependency that always led to me having snapd installed, and after fighting with it repeatedly I found it easier to switch to Debian.
It’s really disappointing that snapd has even infected headless installs. I loved Ubuntu on headless, and I still use it as a docker base image.
I honestly don’t pay that much attention to what packages are installed. As long as system loads are acceptable when nothing is running, leaving sufficient resources for whatever needs doing.
I don’t either, but then I saw snapd mount points showing up. 🙄
I haven’t noticed anything yet, but I don’t spend too much time looking at mount points.
Whatever flops your mop dude, if works it works 🙌
No, Apple gives off hipster vibes to the average PC user. Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them, so that when you slide that phone out of your pocket there’s that Apple logo on it. So that your bubble is blue in iMessage. That’s hipster shit.
The average PC user has never seen Linux running on a PC and doesn’t understand what a “distro” is at all. Ubuntu and its default Gnome DE isn’t as easily mistaken for Windows as KDE or Cinnamon is, so this one might spark the conversation a little faster, and “average” Windows users tend to compare Linux users of all stripes to vegans.
WIthin the Linux community, Until maybe 5 years ago Ubuntu had the “beginner OS” stank to it. “Start here until you’re ready to edit xorg.conf like a real man.” Canonical has been shifting away from “Linux for the masses” and more toward “Leveraging synergies” to the point that I straight-up recommend against Ubuntu for daily use as their Snap ecosystem has a lot of disadvantages for desktop users especially gamers. To me, Ubuntu is a radial arm saw, the wonder do-all death trap grampa won’t shut up about that no one makes anymore. In the modern day, best practice is to forget they exist.
Only snowflakes use Linux. Linus Torvalds has only 150 million (but how much % share?), give him more, you unadulterated extremism of an example of a species with some kind of brain. Lol, do you even hear yourself when you’re posting
You sound like you play Call of Duty.
That’s actually accurate, but I got a private server ban back in 2007 because I made too many headshots 😋 Never bothered to mess with them noobs again, until now it seems.
What is the best distro for gaming on Linux?
I can’t argue with @Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 's answer of "SteamOS running on the Steam Deck. Beyond that, on normal x86 gaming PC hardware? There isn’t a meaningful answer. I have perfectly good luck gaming on Linux Mint. Others prefer Arch or its forks, some prefer Nobara which is on the Fedora family tree.
What’s the best distro for gaming on Linux? The one that you keep installed.
Technically, steamOS because it’s designed to play games and it’s what the steam deck uses. That probably won’t have many other non-gaming features though, and I’ve personally never used it. In my experience, you can get most games without a hyper-aggressive anti cheat working on any Linux distro with varying degrees of effort, just a matter of having all the needed libraries installed! The more popular distros like Ubuntu, popOS, Fedora, even Arch (btw) should have a lot of helpful information out there on how to get Lutris or Steam set up.
Personally, I’ve been gaming on Arch with minimal issues for 2 years. Mostly stick to steam games for the low effort required though.
Jesus Christ this thread is full of people who don’t realize they’re the judging hipster in the post.
Ubuntu isn’t the entry level distro that you move on from once you’ve gotten your feet wet, and your not very subtle pats on your own backs for using something different aren’t earned.
Does it do everything the user needs from it? If so, don’t tell them that they need to “graduate” to a “better” flavor.
For real I started on Ubuntu and nearly a decade later I still would be on Ubuntu if it wasn’t for their migration to snaps with the proprietary back end.
I still prefer nerdy hipster elitists gatekeepers from greedy corps after all is said and done. The first is unfortunate flaw of human character, the second is a calculated machine. If this is the price to pay then so be it. Individuality often isn’t as nice on the surface as the common but the common often has hidden sinister motives under the comfy, smoothened out rug of user friendliness.
Lonely nerds don’t have PR and marketing teams but also won’t stab you in the back for profit. Sometimes they can be huge assholes though.
All the linux makes me say “do what now?”
I just want to change the settings on my fan. It’s been roughly 2 years.
I wouldn’t say hipster, I’d say nerd. Hipster implies that they think it’s cool
I think it’s cool :<
Ubuntu is a gateway drug. Its lickable Fisher-Price interface is easy to use for basic tasks like web browsing, email and so on, and the always present sidebar provides reassurance. Once users start chafing against the limitations, they can move to forks like Xubuntu, or all the way to Debian itself, or if they really want to get their hands dirty, Arch.
When did Ubuntu get a lickable UI?
Or Ubuntu could perform every task they need it to and never switch to anything else.
As Canonical has been doing nothing but worsening the user experience in Ubuntu for end user desktop use I see “performing every task they need it to” as decreasingly likely.
m8 linux is not for the sort of person who gets panicked about options in the first place, there’s an alarming disconnect in this trend towards pretending it’s just linux’s reputation for complexity that puts people off. There are people in this very thread who don’t even recognize that apple is fascist hipster bullshit and almost noone who understands why. What’s more, I once heard a grown woman argue she shouldn’t have a different opinion than her parents because if it was good enough for them it should be good enough for her. People are fucking monkeys, mate. If linux ever hits 10% market share I’ll be amazed. Hell, 5 is a stretch…
Exactly this! Couldnt agree more :)
Using ANY Linux gives off hipster vibes to the average user.
That’s assuming their eyes don’t just glaze over from a lack of understanding what you’re on about.
Yeah, that’s the point
That’s not the point OP is making. So what’s your point?
Hey man idk why you’re being so hostile to people responding to you, but it is the point OP is making. They’re saying that ANY Linux distro, including Ubuntu, are seen as ‘hipsters’ to average PC users, but within the Linux community Ubuntu is very basic AKA not hipster.
Off the top of my head, the easiest analogy is that having your favorite song be Creep by Radiohead might be seen as kinda alternative/hipster to someone who listens to pop music, but to anyone in the indie community or radiohead fans, it’s seen as the opposite.
to an average user, using ubuntu gives hipster vibes, using most other distros gives neckbeard vibes
Congratulations on mansplaining the headline. Did you have something constructive to add?
Imagine thinking people view you as a hipster for using Linux.
Correct me if I’m wrong,
but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:- Proprietary pieces in their code
- Telemetry (spyware)
- Snap packages by default
Do you use Arch, btw?
I think that you misspelled Hannah Montana Linux?
Only the most elite have knowledge of this power, it is forbidden.
I use Aurora, Universal Blue flavour 🌻
Show Ubuntu some love. Ubuntu is the entry distro of many us. But you move on once you grow up a little.
It got a lot of press when it first showed up and it was a strong default suggestion for new users for well over a decade.
I used it for several years and I initially jumped ship to Xubuntu, so it was clearly good enough for me to want to use something similar at first. The distro-specific changes (snaps, etc.) are more likely to alienate experienced users, whereas new users are less likely to object to things like snaps.
I don’t use anything Ubuntu-based these days, but it has everything to do with my specific needs/preferences. Nothing directly to do with the decisions that get bad press among long-term users.
I have used Ubuntu for years. I’m not a noob by any means, and would consider myself more advanced than most users. I used to love tinkering, but once I had a set of scripts built that set everything up just the way I like it on a new install, the need to tinker faded.
I have recently switched to Debian due to bloat and snaps, but I won’t ever judge an Ubuntu user.
Yeah I started in the Red Hat 2 era, played with all the WMs and DEs, compiled my own kernel a few times. After a point I had too much going on in my life to tinker with my distro. My needs are simple, I just need a terminal and a package manager.
Snaps have issues sure, but anything is better than the dependency hell of old.
Use what works. It’s really that simple.
Would recommend Debian then. The switch was pretty smooth for me. Almost everything worked the same, but without the snaps.
Do you judge me? I use Windows 7.
If the machine still worked, I’d be using Windows XP.
I’m rly happy when ppl switch to a GNU/Linux OS, tho I would never recommend Ubunto to anyone (anymore), since Linux Mint has a much saner no bs team that is not fucked over by a corporate
Or Debian, which is wondwrful as well
Love my debian server <3
Why would Ubuntu give off hipster vibes? It’s literally the default standard for Linux.
I use Ubuntu because I have just 2 brain cell
I use Ubuntu because if we want any chance of proper mainstream usability of Linux, this distro is the best bet. And to help my family with it, I need it ready myself.
I use mint because I only have one. It’s simple and does everything I want. I don’t need complicated linux, I need a web browser and a NAS VLC terminal.
