I don’t know … I like my surgical equipment to stay sterilized before surgery.
Let’s push for surgical equipment to be made more environmentally friendly, rather than dismiss a global iniative to reduce plastics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7068768/
Also, sterilisation isn’t dependent on the equipment being made of plastics
https://www.cdc.gov/infection-control/hcp/disinfection-sterilization/sterilizing-practices.html
Condoms are rubber and I’m not sure how you don’t know that. Besides, I don’t know that anyone wouldn’t want some number of exemptions to exist.
Fair enough. Polyurethane condoms do exist, especially for people of latex allergies, in fact they’re more popular in the premium priced condoms, because they’re thinner
My concern with language, is using broadly simplistic language that is very evocative, necessitating exceptions and carve outs, either diminishes the message itself, or the carve outs undermine the objective.
For example, the people who say “death to America” but then when you push them on it say oh but I don’t mean the people of the country, I just mean the foreign policy etc the message is very evocative, and I think it’s counterproductive.
I think it would be easier to ignore calls like “let’s ban all bannable single use plastics”, because what would that mean? But yeah I hear you. I always thought “Zero Waste” was a stupid moniker because it’s literally impossible to have no waste. But it probably does succeed in getting people to talk/think about the issue.
If you remove 99% of single use plastic, you can still have your single use surgical and medical plastic. It’s a matter of using them where they are actually needed instead of using them because it’s cheaper to throw shit away.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good enough.
- Tiniest fraction of single use plastic
- Could be recycled or reused/resterilized
- What flavour of skepticism are you trying to perform rn?
I’m responding to the global ban aspect of the headline.
Global banning laws can have exceptions carved out of them and usually do. There’s a global ban on whaling- Iceland excepted.
Comically, the whaling fleet docs next to where the whale watching boats launch.
it’s all burned for sanitary reasons
People aren’t going to say the bad option when asked. How many of that 85% actively avoid them?
That’s a classic strategy from how to lie with statistics, when conducting observational polling -
if you phrase the question of would you like an externality to be applied to other people do you support this thing? You get a lot more yeses
If you phrase the question about what would you give up for this external benefit ? You get a lot more noes
Thank-you for the details
Sorry, I really don’t have time to till the soil and make my own clothing.
That’s what it comes down to. And we can only choose the best of whatever options were given by the specialists providing them (ie food distributors and shippers).
If we could, we’d try and influence shippers so they use greener options, but most of those decisions aren’t exposed for us to tune. It’s very much a “thing comes out of slot in black box” kind of setup with no input at any point in the supply chain and we’re left feeling guilty for choosing to buy food.
The magic about collective action is that the everyday-normal-coorperation of humans comes up with solutions for everyone. The pointer to individual decision-making in lack of collective action thus doesn’t work as a measure of how serious people are.
Also seen in episodes like
“Oh, you are wearing shoes made under unfair conditions?!”
And
“Oh there is fossil fuel in your energy consumption?”
Or
“Oh if you like democracy so much, why do you exist in a not-so-democratic-country?”
That’s very much a “you criticize a system yet you live in it” kind of argument. It’s pretty much impossible to avoid single use plastic even if you try really hard. You can reduce their usage but it’s up to manufacturers to step up (or be forced by law) and find alternatives.
- Clearly fake
- Not news (April 11)
Yet they’re going out and buying liquid laundry detergent, tide pods, dishwasher pods all in single use plastics when they have a powder/cardboard option. We need better laws.
Companies will keep selling single use plastic and nothing else if possible. Customers will keep buying it if it’s convenient or cheaper. So government has to play the villain and force companies to do what they do best: innovate and find a solution.
