Haha, private company, you can’t do shit about it.
Google is ruining themselves to suck off advertisers. Hopefully someone can fill the gap of YouTube.
PeerTube could use some love.
Maybe odysse will rise
“So guys getting blown up in trenches in Ukraine by drones? Ha, totally not age-restricted,” the creator said. “ Me firing a 3D printed pink glock that I made? Age-restricted. We don’t need kids watching that. We want kids watching people getting blown up by mines. Love it. Awesome.”
Guys missing the corpo bottom line.
Gun manufacturers have gotten sued by families of school shooting victims. Youtube runs the risk of getting dragged into court because little Billy sees the 3D printed pink glock, decides that he can make that, that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction (which includes Youtube, even if the odds of getting anything are minimal) like mushroom spores. That risk assessment doesn’t exist for Ukraine war vids.
More generally “gun control” is never about controlling the cops, military, MIC, etc. There’s bi-partisan support for the state maintaining its monopoly on violence.
that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction
Frankly in such a situation not such instructions, and not even Billy’s parents should be held primarily responsible, but bullies’ parents.
Would reduce the amount of such cases quite a lot, not even talking about more healthy childhood for every human useful for civilization (bullies usually grow into pretty average types).
I suspect this is exactly right.
Yeah billy should be build IUDs not 3d printed guns. That’ll make kids safer. /s
Honestly, why can’t we put half the effort we do censoring the world into teaching kids/people the sanctity of human life. There was a time where the US was had strong pacifist culture but almost every house had gun, but I think we didn’t do a good job transitioning from religious to secular values in that way.
Yeah billy should be build IUDs not 3d printed guns
I see the /s but…The Ukraine war videos don’t show how to build IEDs, though. And even if they did, who would the parents sue? Ukraine, a nation at war? As opposed to 3D printed guns show you how to make them, and you could try to sue the gun company who it belongs to. And YouTube in both cases.
we didn’t do a good job transitioning from religious to secular values in that way.
A lot of religions were founded on and/or expanded by violence (Pilgrims to America, Knights Templar, Spanish Inquisition, etc), so I don’t remotely think “religious to secular” is the reason.
Oh yeah no doubt religion isn’t a solid basis for morality. More so just saying that we are niehlist, new ageist, more than holding something like humanist values now.
A lot of the 3d printed gun video content is more like reviews because YouTube already censor creation content.
PSR is an awesome channel and his music slaps. He doesn’t give any instructions or links to files or anything else. He just shows completed examples he built that the community designed. YouTube needs to fuck off with the censorship. The information is all out there. They aren’t protecting anybody.
Lost profits for the gun industry.
People sitting at home 3D printing guns aren’t happy? Who could have guessed.
I mean it’s not gun printers that are mad. There are places to congregate for that shit.
I’m guessing most people aren’t happy.
Not just in the gun community but like everyone.
Some of those people might be extra unhappy.
Projection
And?
Your point?
means youtube is doing something right
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A private company restricting what videos I can see is AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION when those videos involve GUNS! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! NO REGULATIONS!
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Soon the only content left on Youtube will be AI generated ads for Ponzi schemes.
We can only hope.
I used to frequent the FOSSCAD IRC ages back as a teen. This started during the post-Liberator panic, there were talks about regulating 3D printers to not allow printing guns, etc. Designed a few things, never actually printed any of it myself, but some others did. Really got me into engineering before I exited the scene, led to actually pursuing an engineering career. Was surprised to see 3D printed gun videos so openly shared, it was pretty underground for ages there.
I used to run the 3D printing community on G+ at around 500k strong, (about 10k weekly active users according to Google’s stats) and I ended up actually pissing off a lot of my European users because of this. My viewpoint on it, was as an engineering exercise – it’s an amazing thing. It’s not advocating for guns, and guns aren’t only used to kill other people. So I stood up for the guys posting about their engineering challenges, and their work making 3D printed parts for a machine with high impact loads and loads of cycling issues.
Unfortunately, it lost me some friends, like Gina Haubage and Tomas Sanladerer – as they disagreed highly; and wanted to ban anyone posting firearms related 3D printing content.
Absolutely, it’s a fabulous engineering challenge, to make it work well on a hobbyist grade 3D printer with ordinary materials. Also a lesson in using the right tool for the right job (some parts are just better off milled or bought OtS)
Third most popular video on the guy’s channel - a million views. A handgun that can shoot all its bullets in the blink of an eye.
30 years from now if 3D printers are unrestricted, will there be any point to gun control?
Neither the gun nor the switch is 3d printed in that video.
But to answer your question, you can make a firearm from actual trash if you’re sufficiently motivated. Look at the different guns Abe’s assassin made from a couple of years ago, he even made his own ammunition because of it’s lack of availability in Japan. Is the point of gun control as it currently stands to limit access to firearms period or to limit their access to good and more easily available weapons? I would say it is realistically the latter, though crossbows and air rifles are completely legal for people who are barred from owning firearms to obtain and use which sort of invalidates that too.
Not to mention that under US law black powder guns are not legally considered firearms.
While that’s technically a loophole, it’s left in place to allow poor people in rural areas to supplement their food budget with hunting even if they have a felony conviction.
Which, tbh, many felonies shouldn’t be felonies and nonviolent felons should have a path back to rights both ballot and (normal centerfire/rimfire) bullet, imo
Why 30 years from now?
That seemed random, and it kinda was: uneducated(!) guess on how long it will take the technology to both develop and popularize to the point the average kindergarten massacre* is committed with a 3D printed gun.
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Is 30 years long enough for there to be a decent likelihood we’ll be able to print the switch and firearm from that video? Thanks for your responses, I can tell you know your stuff.
* to be clear, being forever upset about Sandy Hook has no bearing on my respect for responsible gun owners, presumably the vast majority
You can already print those switches, the stls are already out there.
It’s still illegal to do, of course, without the proper licensing.
OK very interesting. So I figure regulation:
Helps the state punish people IF they get caught
More importantly, makes it harder to advertise & discourages printed parts & guns, leading to lower availability. I imagine most guns used in crimes were Initially purchased legally. I also imagine over time this will shift.
Well yes, but that doesn’t affect people who plan to murder with them of course, the added time for doing it with a “machine gun” specifically is nothing compared to already getting life, the death penalty, shot by cops, or suicide at the end of their spree killing.
Though no, guns are legal to print, the switch is defined as a machine gun by the ATF and that is illegal without the proper licensure. You can print a glock no problem, but you can’t sell it or make it full auto.
Most guns used in crimes were indeed initially purchased legally, but then stolen or sold illegally through a process called “straw purchasing.” The ATF reports avg “time to crime” (from buying in-store until found at a crime scene) of guns they find is 11 years and the overwhelming majority were straw purchased. Now, it’s important to note that this isn’t to say that most guns bought have 11yr before a crime happens, rather that most guns involved in crime (which is a fraction of a percent of all guns sold/owned) took 11yr to get there.
You can already easily manufacture your own firearm with a combination of 3D printers and some metal working tools. Or just buy the barrel pre made and that’s 99% the effort.
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Any competent person with $50 and access to a hardware store can build functional firearms. This didn’t start with 3D printers.
It is 100% legal in the US to build ones own firearms for personal use. Only a few states have put any additional requirements around it.
Building new full auto guns is already illegal without the proper federal licensure. It was already possible for motivated bad actors to ignore this law if they want, even before 3D printing became a moral panic.
There is already zero point to gun control. Can’t stop the signal.
That switch is a federal offense unless you have a Class III SOT and have paid the prerequisite taxes. He explains it at 2:00.
3D printed guns are being used by fighters in Myanmar.
https://3dprint.com/302100/myanmar-rebels-rely-on-3d-printed-guns-to-fight-military-junta/amp/
They’re pretty important if you want to be anti-authoritarian.
I think the people who get up in arms over 3d printed guns forget that most people will never develop the skills or even have the prerequisite skills to make one anyways. It isn’t like you just plug in the printer, down load a file, and you have a gun. You need to learn alot of other things to actually make something functional. Things like ECM (electro chemical machining) is often necessary and a whole host of other skills.
How is this relevant? They will still be able to watch YouTube videos about the topic like before, it’s just age restrictions for under 18
I woke up this morning thinking “I wonder what the 3D printing gun community thinks about stuff.”, and I’m going to bed not giving a shit. Fuck these psychos.
