• Zozano@aussie.zone
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    18 days ago

    Who cares? Bethesda is long past the point of developing a good game.

    They could take all the time in the world and it would still be shit because their formula for game development is pathetic.

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      17 days ago

      I won’t discount them unless an Elder Scrolls or Fallout game drops and is garbage. 76 has turned around into an actually enjoyable experience, for instance. At the same time I don’t particularly care if a studio pumps out good or bad as there will still be idiots preordering and buying day 1. I am more than happy to wait for the reviews. A good game is a good game, and a bad one, bad. Who develops it makes no real difference apart from an expectation.

      Thaaaat saaaid: Todd, my dude, you do actually need to hurry up. A great entry into the Fallout universe would restore some of the old faith you have caused to fall away.

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        17 days ago

        won’t discount them unless an Elder Scrolls or Fallout game drops and is garbage

        It was called Starfield and it dropped last September

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          16 days ago

          Which is neither fallout or elder scrolls. I played starfield to it’s completion. It was fine. Nothing more than a 7/10. Had a lot to work on.

          But I don’t get the fallout 4 hate. With a few mods and shutting up the protagonist, the game was more than enjoyable.

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            16 days ago

            Which is neither fallout or elder scrolls

            It’s in the same engine with the same mechanics that the last 2 Single-Player Fallout and Elder Scrolls games used (the gunplay is Fallout, the magic is Skyrim shouts, exploration is the same in all of them), to pretend Starfield doesn’t reflect on what future BGS Games will be like just because it doesn’t have the same name as their other series is patently silly

            Nothing more than a 7/10

            Your standards are way too low if you think Starfield is anything close to a 7

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        17 days ago

        This is one point I contend with: Fallout 76 didn’t become good with patches. I’m not unconvinced that there’s a conspiracy for Bethesda to create the impression online that the game became good with updates.

        That’s just me though.

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          17 days ago

          I was going to say Fallout 4 was the stinker and the only reason it gets as high of praise as it does is just how bad Fallout 76 was and after a lot of patches still is.

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      17 days ago

      Come on now, let’s be honest : as long as the community keep doing the work for them, their games will be popular. All they gotta do is make it easy to make mods and the jankiness and stupid decisions can be patched over and made into something great that actually pleases everybody, because everybody can decide to fix what they want.

      The problem is their delusion that people love their games as they are.

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        17 days ago

        Even this is a stretch to be honest. Their games aren’t easy to mod. Minor updates break shit. You need to consider mod load order. You need to “clean” the base files before loading in any big mods.

        Their games are made of fucking speghetti code and they don’t care. They could fix it, but they don’t. They could clean their own base game files so this isn’t necessary, but they would rather force people into the ecosystems of Creation Club.